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  1. !null says:

    Whoever made this doesn’t watch enough porn.

  2. anon says:

    Well actually the stuff made before Walt died were less family friendly, Watch Song of the South http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038969/, still better than current disney channel though…

    • Walt says:

      You have to look at the Song of the South in the context of the time when it was originally shown. For that era, it was not that out of line. Same way Tom Sawyer had N. Jim, and Warner Brothers had Speedy Gonzales, Song of the South was not much different. However, it clearly does not stand the test of time and changing standards any clear gender roles in Pride and Prejudice do (until you add the zombies).

    • Nostawyn says:

      At least Song of the South had some good morals in there. “You can’t run from trouble. Ain’t no place that far.” is one of my favorite quotes ever. I always loved the Brer Rabbit cartoons when I was little, too. We watched them all the time in kindergarten through about the third grade. I didn’t see the whole movie until 8th grade, and I liked it. It’d be much better without the racism/racial stereotyping, but I think it’s a good movie regardless (taking into account when it was made & the era it’s about).

  3. Anthony says:

    This guy obviously hasn’t watched the early Disney stuff, not too wholesome and family friendly, that stuff was so racist and violent guys seriously look some of it up on youtube you would really be surprised.

    • Agli says:

      Totally true. It’s funny though watching Dumbo and seeing all of those stereotypical people (I mean the crows)

    • Nostawyn says:

      Violence is very child-friendly. Children like violence as long as it happens to the right people (the bad guys or stupid people who deserve it for being stupid). I have a book of fairytales from when my great-grandma was little and one from the early 90s when I was learning to read. In the old book, the bad guys always bought it and the dummies did, too. In the newer one, pretty much everyone lives.

      Ex: GG’s 3 little pigs– pigs 1 & 2 die because they were too cheap/lazy/stupid to build a good house. The wolf also dies by falling on the fire.
      My 3 little pigs– pigs 1 & 2 make it safely to the brick house. Wolf passes out from exhaustion.

      The lesson is clear enough in both, but my book teaches you that other people will dig you out of the sh*t pile you make for yourself. The first teaches you not to be lazy/cheap/stupid cause a wolf’ll eat you.

      • NP says:

        Sounds to me like your book teaches you to work hard AND help the less fortunate.

        • Nostawyn says:

          The pigs weren’t less fortunate, they were lazy and cheap. Don’t be lazy and cheap, and the wolf won’t get you. That’s the moral of the story. The good guys help the less fortunate but they don’t help/can’t save the a-holes who didn’t listen. Snow White and Rose Red save the angry dwarf whose beard is stuck twice even though he’s a douche and refuses to let them cut it, but when he continues to be a douche, he gets stuck again and a bear eats him. And then it turns out that the dwarf was the bad guy all along. They also help the bear when he’s cold and hungry. And he’s the prince.

          It’s that way in all the stories. You should help the less fortunate because they might be a witch or a prince or whathaveyou. And you shouldn’t do XYZ because you’ll get eaten. It’s kinda like the Bible in that respect. :)

          Also, I don’t like that in my book Rumplestiltskin(or however you spell it) just gives up and goes away. In GG’s book, he throws a temper tantrum and STOMPS HIS WAY INTO HELL!!! There’s even an illustration showing him falling through the hole and the devil is waiting for him.

          I’ve always had both books, and I’ve always preferred the one where the bad guys get what’s coming to them.

    • Scott says:

      “Racist and violent” to me, seems like an exaggeration. A product of naive times is more fair. I hear the crows in Dumbo called “racist”, but they’re more stereotypical. Distorted caricatures like these aren’t the same as hateful KKK brand vilification of a race.

      We’ve got to see grey areas and not instantly brand something out of touch with current sensitivities as overtly hateful.

      • Mindless2164 says:

        My grandma used to read me stories when I was a kid where the “badguys” in the stories gets payback by getting their stomachs sliced open with kitchen knives so everything they ate pours out…

        …and the book had illustrations.

        And their only crime was that they were so ugly that people feared them, he never really did anything wrong.

        Compared to that I think Disney was pretty family friendly :p

  4. maestro says:

    What does ‘wholesomeness’ mean?

  5. rocker says:

    As soon as my daughter wants to watch the disney channel I’m blocking it.

    • Malfeasance says:

      Prediction: you will die alone in a nursing home, hated by your children, assuming it was because you weren’t sufficiently hardassed.

    • forge says:

      Pff, not a damn thing in the world wrong with Miley or the Jonases and thank all the gods there are those f*cking Cheetah Girls are finally gone.

      • Mirkwood says:

        Besides the annoying blandness? Yeah, I’d rather have my kid beg for their stuff than Twilight. Brrr.

        • forge says:

          The contrast from Disney to Nick is harsh, innit? iCarly is SO superior to Miley it’s like they’re in different universes.

          • lalala says:

            Yeah, the contrast from Disney to Nick IS harsh, but not the way you seem to think it is.

            Nick advertises crap that kids don’t need. Disney spends their advertising time teaching kids about other cultures or teaching them about autism.

            Carly talks about “crazy waffle cone boobs”. Hannah/Miley always says, “Oh my gosh.”

            The N is airing a commercial in which one of the characters says “bitch”.

            And Nickelodeon runs Spongebob and Fairly
            Odd Parents. Because those are such GREAT shows for kids to be watching. It’s really teaching them a lot. Whereas Disney’s shows always end up with the character righting his/her own wrong and making a responsibile choice.

            • Cammy says:

              disneys shows can teach you about sum good sh*t but the wizards of warely place has ALOT of inuenndo. “how are you going to get this girl to like you?” ” well i used magic to add 15 minutes to break and grow 2 inches” cmon thats wholesome?

            • forge says:

              Well I totally agree with you about the crap animations. Carly is definitely a show for tweens and teens, and Miley’s definitely for a slightly younger audience, so yeah. Disney’s advertising time is taken up with a LOT of self-promotion to say nothing of obligatory music videos from whomever they’re pushing this week and they’re usually 12-to-15-year-olds who they’re tarting up just a little too much (see: Selena Gomez, who I guarantee you will be showing up on the “nipple slip” web sites the second she’s 18). Neither channel is innocent.

          • juuri says:

            well i think it’s ALL crap

    • Scott says:

      Well…maybe WATCH the channel first. They don’t advertise toys or sugary snacks. EVER. So the worst thing you’ll get is your kid bugging you to buy a “Wiggles” DVD.

      You’ll also notice the characters on shows always wear helmets, eat healthy and end up making unselfish choices. Being annoyed by the song-and-dance programming is one thing but the channel is very responsible in the messages it relays to kids.

      If you want to block something, start with VH1, MTV and Fox News.

      • lalala says:

        Finally, someone who makes sense. Not to mention, they always make their characters say, “Oh my gosh.” Best comment on the graph.

  6. Icemask says:

    It’s Disney Channel that makes me wonder that if, like, tomorrow, we made the technology to unfreeze and bring back to life cyrogenically frozen people, and when we bring back Walt, if he’s gonna think “What the hell did you do!?”

    • ay dios mio says:

      He’d probably ask to be frozen again since the Jews are still here. He was a Jew hater.

      • Nostawyn says:

        I just imagined a bunch of people who idealize Walt and are disgusted with the Disney channel unfreezing him and showing him an episode of Hannah Montana. “Won’t you fix it, Mr. Disney?” they cry. “Are the Jews still here?” he asks. “Of course,” they tell him, “Why?” “Refreeze me!” he cries, “They deserve to watch this crap.”

        I needed a laugh. Thanks for that.

      • Scott says:

        OK, considering the people who worked for him in the 50s and the folks who work at the company now (you can look them up online), the anti-semitism claims are unfounded.

        Henry Ford? Oh yes, overtly hated the Jews. Disney? The only ones to ever accuse him of that were disgruntled animators and it was refuted by several others, not to mention the messages of his movies and quotes attributed to him. Anyway, have you RIDDEN “It’s a Small World”? Racists don’t create rides like that.

  7. Agli says:

    Wow, so true. Except that “Made with Pixar”, that’s not just ‘nice’, they’re AWESOME!

  8. Pants_Mcgee says:

    The Disney Channel is pretty much porn?!

    *removes pants*

    *Chris Hansen’s shadow appears in the background*

  9. fen says:

    I do declare a WIN award for u.

  10. Stofi says:

    Pixar should be at least at the same level as ‘Made while Walt was alive’

  11. Skyshade13 says:

    I agree totally, dude, the whole thing is, like corrupted by greed and money. At least we still have Pixar, and hopefully ‘The Princess and the Frog’ will get them back on the right track.

    • Casa says:

      Glad to see they are useing more traditional animation again… but I’m betting the movie boms because it’s ethnic.

    • Scott says:

      You do realize it was a money-making business from the start. So, it’s always been “corrupted”.

      Stuff that doesn’t “make money” isn’t popular. It’s on public access and nobody’s paying to see that…

  12. maddy says:

    actually. the stuff that was on the disney channel in the late 1990s and early 2000s was quite good and not remotely like porn.

    alley cats strike was a movie about a bunch of kids who were really into bowling, so everyone made fun of them until they were all taught a lesson that it is okay to be different.

    brink was about some kids who were really into aggressive roller blading.

    most of the movies and tv shows were about teaching kids that it is okay to be different. wonderful messages.

    there was even a movie about an african american family hosting a foreign exchange student, a privileged white girl from south africa. it took place before the apartheid system was smashed to pieces.

    there was a movie about a girl who wanted to break stereotypes by competing in a male dominated sport.

    so yeah, don’t diss on the disney channel.
    they had some really good stuff going on.

    • somejsmith says:

      and then there was high school musical.

      • Blargh says:

        The beginning of the end. High school musical, Hannah-bitchza-Montanna, the jonas brothers…eventually this sort of marketing for mixing love/slutty teenagers/unrelated things interested other compagnies, leading to an infection of the mind…

        Twillight was born.

        • ay dios mio says:

          And so the infection spread.

        • maddy says:

          i’m just saying. don’t put current disney channel and 90s-2000s disney channel in the same category. everything was different back then.

          • Blargh says:

            What I named up here…Cannot. In any age. Be good. End of topic.

            That is, on a personal scale. There are sad people who like it, I have friends among them. Childs at the end of their high school.

            • Scott says:

              Yeah…and they spend what MOST networks would use as advertising time to teach kids about autism or a real life brother and sister’s selfless bone-marrow transplant.

              It was in the New York Times last week.

              Do you know what :30 seconds of air time would sell for on Disney Channel? Probably more money than you’d make in a month. But instead, they devote it to positive social messages. So, maybe understand what you’re talking about before you comment.

              Thanks.

              • Malfeasance says:

                “understand what you’re talking about before you comment”

                Sadly, that is completely contrary to the way the Internet works.

          • Chris says:

            Yeah I did enjoy some of the shows back in the day. I miss classic Disney.

        • Scott says:

          Twilight feels like Harry Potter fan fiction, doesn’t it?

  13. maddy says:

    oh! and don’t forget tru confessions. a story of a girl who takes care of her mentally handicapped brother.

  14. fizzle says:

    ummm disney under walt allowed racist (extremely) perceptions of black people. it was not always so “fuzzy” (and no, I’m not black).

  15. Jokerman says:

    And Luck of the Irish shows that even leprechauns can play basketball.

  16. NP says:

    Man, erin.bffl has never seen porn.

  17. KayKay says:

    Dude, Pixar totally belongs ABOVE the original Disney animation, and it has nothing to do with technology. They have the most original stories and most relatable characters of any group of films. I have never seen a bad Pixar movie. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for Disney (coughAtlantis:TheLostEmpirecough).

    • BrokebackMountaineer says:

      Let’s see…a quartet of supers, one with incredible strength, one with incredible stretching ability, one with the incredible ability to turn invisible and project force fields, one capable of incredible speed…all threatened by a rejected fifth-wheel megalomaniac with a warped superintelligence and unlimited resources who wants to kill them?

      That’s TOTALLY original. …Right, Dr. Doom?

      • Not G. Ivingname says:

        Lets see, a film were an old guy attaches a million balloons to his house to live his life long dream to being an adventurer? SO unorginal. A mouse that wants to be a chef so he can please his father? Done a hundered times before. A film about a trash cleaning robot that falls in love? Cliched beyond reason. A family of super heroes that are not looked up to by the world, but are hated and scorned, and are forced to live in a suburban home. Boring, seen it before, next!

        (Note heavy sarcasm)

        • Not G. Ivingname says:

          Kay Kay, you do know that Alantis was made AFTER Walt died? The last film he worked on was the jungle book. Nothing after, so he had nothing to do with the 90′s great Disney films and the 00′s crapy ones.

  18. Sarah says:

    Do some research and you’ll find ol’ Walt had a finger in many pies which weren’t linked to the Disney name, but we’re run/ owned by him.

    One of the major ones? Pay-per-veiw soft pornography. Walt Disney invented the concept- So I doubt Miley is making the man spin in his grave

  19. Watwatwut says:

    I’m pretty sure if Armond White made this graph, everything would have switched.

  20. Niv says:

    Pfft, Pirates of the Carribean was great and the story was so well written. The special effects were awe inspiring and were used to great effect to tell the storyline rather than just serve as eye candy. And I loved Jack Sparrow!

    I grew up watching old Disney cartoons in good old technicolor, but Beauty And the Beast is still my most favorite because the it has the best songs IMO :) .

    But then, I don’t watch the Disney channel so maybe I’m missing something.

  21. forge says:

    Not shown: ABC Television (below the bottom of the chart) and ABC “Family” Channel (below the bottom of the entire universe).

  22. Squirrely__Kitteh says:

    actually, there are many hidden sex messages in early disney. Along with racism. there is a part of The Rescuers where you can see some toppless women in windows. also, in the lion king, the word sex appears in the sky at one point in Aladdin,you can hear Aladdin say: good teenagers, take off your clothes. No wonder so many teens are sexting! also, in the lion king, the word sex appears in the sky at one point

    • Malfeasance says:

      Jesus Christ save us from geniuses who regurgitate every COOL STORY BRO they read on the Internet. Most of this stuff, when true, appears for one frame of film–done as a in-joke by animators long before DVD made it possible to stop on a frame. And that’s the ONLY way “you can see” it.

      A little research debunks a lot of it as well (the “boner” in “Little Mermaid,” for example, is another one where you have to freeze frame and deliberately interpret the image as such), and the line from “Aladdin” is pure ‘ear of the beholder.’

      You’re a knob. Get off the Internet.

    • huh says:

      why on earth would the animators use “sex” instead of just the F word? If they’re going to be dirty, why not go all out?

      Makes no sense. I bet you think we also didn’t land on the moon, and that there are aliens at Area 51 =_=’

    • Shaddup says:

      No, the Lion King spells out “SFX”, short for special effects. The Aladdin thing is power of suggestion, but yes, the Rescuers DID have 2 single-frame images of the same topless woman (which you could barely make out when freeze-framed anyways). But it was removed when it went to DVD, so it’s not possible to see it now.

    • forge says:

      My God, this is all complete bullcrap. Are you playing us or are you really this amazingly stupid? Do you want to buy some land in South Florida?

  23. shikamaru says:

    YES! YOU GET #1 PRIZE FOR AWESOME GRAPH MAKING THAT IS VERY TRUE!

  24. lalala says:

    HOW is Disney channel “practically porn”, and older Disney movies are not?? Give me an example.

    Also, I can’t believe no one has brought up Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Because that is TOTALLY the most appropriate movie for kids EVER.

  25. alllison says:

    Oh god, is this graph true. I’m getting all moist thinking about Phineas and Ferb right now.

  26. Thalia says:

    EPICLY TRUE

  27. Kat says:

    Except that Walt was an antisemitic raciest, and all Disney films are filled with racist and misogynistic themes.

  28. Not G. Ivingname says:

    It’s pretty sad the best movies… or anything, that Disney has made this decade have been films about Rats, fish, a trash cleaning robot, and a guy that ties a million balloons to his house that was made by an almost seperate company. (Just to clarify, I love Pixar films to, Up being one of my top five best animated films ever, but it is pretty sad you got to admit.)

  29. Infernape1 says:

    i dunno what kind of porn you watch but you can get a hell of a lot better stuff than you are

  30. graphingcalculator says:

    pixar is good, disney channel sucks…

  31. Troll Feeder says:

    Overused linegraph FTW!


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