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it’s legal where i’m from
Feh, that’s no big secret in Florida.
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mmmm… dessert…
I just found out the other day that it’s not “dessert”. I always thought it was.
What’s not “dessert”?
Dessert is food – ice cream etc…
Desert is that dry thing with sand in it.
“just dessert”/”just desserts” is the correct usage/spelling.
“Deserts” is an archaic word meaning “that which one deserves”. So, “just deserts” is the correct usage.
This is true. Thank you for Gramazi-ing!
Depends on where you live. It’s legal here and the problems with it are less than in a lot of coutries where it isn’t because it’s easier to control if its legal and if there are rules. Just like with alcohol.
Obligatory:
Venn Diagrams do not show relative size, just overlap.
So this graph shows that some undetermined percentage of people who smoke pot also have the drive to get laws changed.
Also, you don’t have to smoke it to be in favour of legalising it.
Why would you want it legalised though? The kind of people who are stupid enough to smoke marijuana need all the brain cells they can get, and marijuana kills them.
Annual Causes of Death in the United States
Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Marijuana 0
Source: http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30
Get your facts straight. Pot doesn’t kill anyone.
Legal substances, like alcohol and tobacco, on the other hand, kill a lot of people.
Biased
In my experience people who use drugs will do and say anything to justify and to enable their behavior. I should know.
Well, you’re definitely one of the victims judging by your ability to understand a simple text. He wrote that marijuana kills brain cells, which means you become stupid, not dead.
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November 11, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Well, you’re definitely one of the victims judging by your ability to understand a simple text. He wrote that marijuana kills brain cells, which means you become stupid, not dead.
You know there really is a difference between insulting a person, whom you’ll never have the pleasure of meeting, and differing with their opinions. But then I’ve learned that those who espouse the former are rampant on places like this.
As I have said in other comments before I a.) don’t smoke pot and b.) I saw that after I posted my original comment. Perhaps if it’s not too tiring on your brain, you could bother to read those?
Btw, this was pointed out to me very politely by another person and I agreed. However as I said in my answer there, they are still pertinent facts, and I got them from just looking up “deaths attributed to marijuana”.
alcohol kills braincells, weed kills longcells ( just the smoke) and if u bake it or drink it there’s nothing, you can have a badtrip, that sucks but that just means you used to much (same thing with a blackout with alcohol) i smoke pot once a week i think, and don’t argue about it if you have never done it.
WEED LEGAL 4 EVER!!!
Would that make you for legalization or not? because you said legal things kill, but 0 deaths sounds like your for it?
Legal things do kill. Guns kill. Tobacco kills. Alcohol kills. All these things need to be tempered with moderation and education.
It may be that pot in excess kills as well, as far as lung disease or if you are stupid enough to drive stoned. However I sincerely do not believe that pot can ever be proved to cause as many deaths as other recreations we take for granted.
Yes I do think it should be legalized. There’s simply no reason it should not, and regardless of the fact it is illegal – people are going to use it.
pot in excess does kill, but the problem is that the lethal amount is more then one could ever smoke
weed doesn’t usually kill anyone outright but its’ use does lead to #’s 2,6 & 11 on your list.
Lol. #11. IMHO pot should be legalized, taxed, and the few hundred million a year spent on lobbying to illegalize(yup) tobacco and make breathalizer use when exiting a bar mandatory. The fact that we dont have that is just plain silly, they are cheap and relatively accurate, and bars that dont already have a doorman or bouncer just need to work that into the job description for the manager. How hard is it to escort the drunk-a$$ to the cab a couple more times a night?
that is the stupidest thing i’ve EVER heard. how you can be for legalizing marijuana and criminalizing tobacco is beyond me. all that would accomplish was bringing cigarettes to corner drug dealers and making it unsafe for people to obtain them and causing gang and dealer rivalries over tobacco, it would probably create a whole new generation of “drug” (tobacco) dealers, etc. and why would you breathalyze everyone leaving a bar? for every one person driving home, there are probably 5 people walking, getting a ride with someone else, or already planning on taking a cab. why should they have to succumb to a breath test if they already have a way of getting home safely? how is it “silly” that we don’t do this? seriously, do you listen to yourself when you talk?
No mention of death caused by pot in Redneck_Rebel’s post. You FAILED. Stop smoking and read again.
Good working ready potpiekitty’s other posts; they don’t smoke. Also, you’re making a rather big deal out of simple pronoun confusion. Although it’s fairly clear that “them” refers to brain cells, it could legitimately be interpreted as a reference to the actual smokers.
Your grammar analysis of the day, brought to you by someone who, unlike potpiekitty, actually smokes.
And I suppose it’s entirely unthinkable that a number of those “motor vehicle crashes” are caused by pot? I highly doubt that the number for alcohol accounts for only alcohol poisoning.
Showing the total number of deaths is also useless without taking into account the number of people who actually do it. “Putting your head in a woodchipper” probably gets a zero in that list, but that hardly means it’s safe.
Thats retarded Marijuana is stronger than Tabacco and what about all the accidents caused by high people
yeah, marijuana just gives you horrible diseases. such as cancer, and other things that i can’t pronounce, kidney failure, and even if it doesn’t kill you it can give you heart and liver trouble.
It’s never been linked to cancer – a researcher who studied it and expected to find it as giving an increased risk of having lung cancer ended up discovering that tobacco smokers had the highest chance of getting lung cancer, and that weed smokers and non-smokers have about the same odds. THC has actually been observed as having characteristics that fight cancer.
Annual Causes of Death in the United States
Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Marijuana 0
Pot doesn’t kill anyone.
You could make a case that pot causes poor diet and physical inactivity
Wouldn’t it also fit in “All illicit drug use, direct and indirect.”? Or is that just reserved for all those ‘other’ illegal drugs?
It could also be a contributing factor in Motor vehicle crashes, suicides and sexual behaviors.
Just sayin’
Not really, but possibly. However, is that worth $42,000,000,000(billion) of your taxes yearly? (BTW, that’s $115,068,493 and 15 cents per day).
How about the lost taxes on a $113,000,000,000 a year industry?
How about 40,000 people at any given time losing their freedom?
Maybe it’s worth handing organized crime that $113 billion, along with the lives taken at the border and most of Mexico.
And alcohol is not?
What about using cell phones while driving?
Or not wearing safety belts?
lol, those last two are banned where i’m from (Ontario), although the cell phone law I don’t agree with either.
You better agree with it. If one more bastard comes around a corner almost hitting he because he is trying to TYPE a TEXT MESSAGE on his telephone… Talking is also distracting, though you at least somewhat see the road.
Not texting while driving makes so much sense I am surprised they HAD to make a law, but talking I don’t buy. The law even exempts hands free devices! There should be more lenient traffic laws and better driver education. Everybody has different abilities, and if you try to idiot proof driving it will become unbearable and weaken the credibility of traffic laws in general.
Have you tried talking to your friend while driving?
Well sure they are…just taking Lorbens lead on other causes of death that pot could be a contributing factor to. I never said those things don’t contribute to deaths, but pot could as well.
btw, one of the biggest defences that big tobacco used for decades was that there were no direct deaths linked to smoking. A lot of smokers died from cancer or emphysema, but ’smoking’ didn’t go on the death certificate.
what about bacon?
“sexual behaviors”?
Because clearly, sex is a terrible thing. We should really just ban it.
clearly, in the gist of the original post I was referring to ‘deaths due to sexual behaviors’, which could clearly result from diminished judgement due to pot smoking.
Sex is just fine, nothing wrong with that.
stoners never have a girl, so death by sex is excluded
….i can’t think of a single “death due to sexual behavior” … and if you are referring to stupidly getting AIDS from sleeping with some stranger without a condom, not gonna happen. alcohol causes that. if you’re high, you are probably not interested in sex, and if you are, you are definitely not interested in going out and trolling for new people.
Like in Demolition Man?
The point isn’t that the other behaviors are terrible, it is that Marijuana is not.
Anything used irresponsibly can lead to a less successful life, but that doesn’t making something that makes you happy and doesn’t harm others illegal.
I don’t need non-smokers to think smoking is a good idea: I think that religion and alcohol are ill advised myself. I just want to have my right to pursue happiness on my own.
There damned well should be strict laws about driving under the influence. It has no place in a car. But it is very important to me. I can live without it, but I’m certainly happier and more at ease with it.
The government looses credibility when it keeps something like this illegal.
You could say TV does too. Or being on a computer and playing with graphs or looking at lolcatz all day
Well, of course you could make a case based on oversimplified stereotypes.
Wow! That’s the bestest fake information in the world ever! Where did you come up with it from – imagination land or fakefactville?
Well I’ve tried twice to put the link in, once in the body of the text, once as my website link. Both are now “up for moderation”.
You DO know how to use Google right? Not just to find lolcatz?
Well if you go to Google and search for “deaths attributed to marijuana” you will find it’s the number one website shown.
Entirely useless without numbers for how many people actually smoke, though, or a lot of activities would be labeled as mostly harmless. I’m sure the total number of deaths in skydiving accidents are negligible compared to most other activities, but that doesn’t mean it’s perfectly safe to jump out of an airplane while strapped to a piece of cloth.
Wow! That’s the bestest argument in the world ever! Where did you come up with it from? Dismissive idiot who takes everything that disagrees with their view to be false land?
I thought he meant it kills people too, at first, but actually, the “them” refers to brain cells.
I realized that after I submitted the information.
It is valid statistical information though. I do think pot should legalized even though I don’t smoke myself.
My point, in submitting that information, is that many things we don’t even think twice about being legal, such as tobacco, is far and above a killer, than pot.
Well, that also happens with alcohol so his point is correct anyway. People whining about pot being dangerous and not critisizing alcohol being legal are hypocrits. Alcohol and pot have similar effect on terms of damage to health. Using too much is dangerous, using it in a controlled way is fine. The effects of making it illegal are only that it now happens in a way where there’s no control over it.
Glad to live in a country that does understand this
although I don’t use it myself I don’t like my laws being stupid.
Maybe you should just give up on the argument. All of the above will kill you. Moving along!
actually i smoke every day and i’m perfectly healthy, whereas if i drink for more than 4 or 5 days in a row i will feel like melted sheisse and want to die
That depends entirely on how much you drink and how much you smoke. There are plenty of people who drink alcohol every day and suffer no ill effects; just drink a beer with your lunch each day. If you really wanted to you could smoke enough each day that you’d be coughing your lungs out within a week.
“Why would you want it legalized”
Because I believe people should be able to do what they want with their own bodies.
The line gets drawn when people that do stuff to their own bodies hurt other bodies.
That’s why we have laws about public intoxication and driving under the influence
There’s no reason to have laws against people responsibly smoking weed in the comfort of their own homes. If we legalize it, regulate it, and educate people about it (like designating a driver, recognizing when you’ve had enough [good rule = if you can't light it, don't smoke it]), it will become much safer than it is now.
Smoking marijuana does not equal stupidity.
Blindly listening to propoganda without critical thought equals stupidity.
And before you go on about having to be dumb to do it, keep in mind that those who rebel a little are often society’s most critical thinkers, the movers and shakers that enact real social change, rather than those who blindly follow the herd and are terrified of anything but the status quo, imperfect as it may be.
Marijuana prohibition is often touted by the same people that promote abstinence-only sex ed – and we’ve seen how well that works. The result is almost universally worse than if you had taken a more moderate path.
Those who “rebel a little” with drugs are also the ones who sit on their couches, stoned out of their minds and chomping on doritos.
I’ve never seen a drug addict getting anything amazing or life-changing done.
Just sayin’.
How many people, addict (pot isn’t addictive, BTW) or not, HAVE you seen “getting anything amazing or life-changing done.”?
“Just sayin’.”
maybe not in person, but I’ve seen (I didn’t include the thousands of artists and actors unless they were surprising, as even though they worked hard I suppose it has less impact):
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Carl Sagan
Al Gore
Michael Bloomberg
Gene Krupa (just so boss, I had to, plus drums require coordination)
Francis Ford Coppella
Pierre Trudeau (Canada’s JFK)
JFK
and my favourites:
Winston Churchill
Sir Richard Branson
Bill Gates
I think they got lots of stuff done.
I want it legalized for medical purposes.
Marijuana is one of extremely few substances that help relieve pain for cancer patients.
My grandma was allergic to morphine. It was the only way she could get her (extreme) pain relieved.
Maybe you should check your facts before posting the lies you’ve been fed for years. Marijuana does not kill brain cells. In fact, it’s currently being studied for its anti-Alzheimer’s properties, which means it actually helps preserve brain function (http://www.scripps.edu/news/press/080906.html). Marijuana does not make you stupider. Like alcohol, it simply decreases function of short term memory only while under the influence.
that’s not true at all.
The truth is, no study has ever demonstrated cellular damage, stupidity, or mental impairment, brought on specifically by marijuana use — even heavy marijuana use.
Alcohol is much more harmful to your body and your brain cells than pot. If anything should be illegal, its booze.
hahaha i have spent the last week thinking about why cannabis isnt legal and i hope i and one of the few people in the middle to try and get it legalised in the uk, people just assoiate cannabis with bad drugs and then dont want to make it legal, i dont know why i am discussing this in this comment but only 2 people have EVER died of cannabis in the whooole world where as thousands of people die from alcohol in the uk every year, yeah i have spent too much time reading about it…
I’m sure quite a number of people have died from smoking cannabis. Allergic reactions and such. There just aren’t any good statistics for it, especially since a lot of people will be reluctant to admit that they smoked pot in places where it’s illegal. Even more have died from thinking they’re okay to drive while stoned, or getting into any number of other accidents they wouldn’t have been in had they not been smoking.
Not saying that’s reason enough to ban it – it’s no worse than alcohol – but saying obviously false things like “no one has ever died from cannabis” will just result in others not taking your arguments seriously.
you’re right, there aren’t any statistics for it
i’d also hate to admit it, but driving while stoned is considerably easier than driving drunk (nevertheless I won’t ever be doing either again, so I won’t be the drunk driver running over your kid).
However, i’ve never heard of being allergic to cannabis, as in getting rashes and about to die, but I have heard of people (primarily women) getting a pretty bad buzz from it (as in nausea and vomiting), but that’s it.
In any case, I agree with you that it’s not reason enough to ban it, far from it considering what other uses the cannabis plants have than smoking
also, come to Denmark some time in the future, our government is looking at legalizing it (yay
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The one on the right looks like its having a f**king awful trip.
You could say the exact same thing about alcohol consumption for 18-20 year old civilians residing in the United States (which IMO, is even stupider, since 18-20 year olds can smoke, vote and die for their country, but they can’t collectively garner enough effort and support for them to be able to do something the rest of the adult population takes for granted)
Yes, I also find the fact that I am not allowed to drink a glass of beer, but that I am allowed to possess a shotgun, making the U.S. law look quite incompetent. It seems there are people who believe drinking a glass of beer is more dangerous than wielding a shotgun.
I’m glad to -not- be an American
Exactly. Or smoking a joint, no matter what your age. It’s seriously f$%&*d up.
I LOVE WEED *^_^*
Intellectual honesty WIN!
Let’s face it, the “medical marijuana” thing is a shill. Should it be legalized? Yes, but not as “medicine.”
That’s exactly my take on it, too. I’m for 100% full legalization, not just decriminalization. I have no illusions that it would not be taxed/regulated just like tobacco. That’s the a I’d be willing to pay.
If this country DOES manage to get it decriminalized/unscheduled for medical uses, the naysayers will cling to that for dear life to prevent its public consumption, i.e., ONLY usable with a prescription.
Incidentally, MDMA is also a Schedule I drug. While that CAN and DOES cause problems when used in excess, I see no reason why it cannot be used safely in moderation.
Pot has been used for centuries as a muscle relaxer and as a anti-nausea drug.
Queen Victoria smoked pot for menstrual cramps and as a one-time user, I can tell you now it does help with that.
Also it really does help with nausea, as it’s been prescribed with (at least partially) good results to chemotherapy patients. Not every chemo patient is helped, but you can say that about every pharmaceutical out there.
I find that decriminalization seems to be the best solution.
Casual drug use like marijuana isn’t that bad, but it gets you into a culture. The reason it’s a gateway drug isn’t necessarily related to it’s addictive effects. It’s about being indoctrinated into drug culture. You’re more likely to try harder drugs when you start with marijuana, that’s just how it is.
And Cocaine, Heroin, Meth etc. destroy lives, plain and simple.
However. Jailing every pothead out there is idiotic, and indoctrinating them into another culture entirely, and that is one of crime. It’s also causing prison overpopulation, along with other stupid things people are being jailed for. It’s a problem that could be helped by the decriminalization of pot.
It sounds that way, (I’ll never vote against it as it is a step in the right direction, we take what we can get), but Legalization is best.
Decriminalization is irrational, saying having is not that bad but buying it is. In practical terms, you have the criminal suppliers strengthened because it is easier to operate and more market at the ground level.
In addition there is no quality control, ethics regulation (minimum age), needless prisoners (even if they are dealers, they could have had legit jobs), and avoidable police spending with no tax revenue.
I like that your heart is in the right place though:)
Yes. And therefore, alcohol should be forbidden!
O, wait, didn’t you mean that?
Well, the “being addictive” and “destroying lives” part works for alcohol as well so there’s no point in not forbidding that while not wanting pot to be legal. And we all know what happens if you try out a noble experiment to forbid it: people use it anyway, only they do it in a way that the government can’t control and so forbidding alcohol fails. So does forbidding soft drugs.
O, by the way, if you’re in the culture of drinking a beer or two when you’re going out or having a party, will that make you drink wodka eventually? Don’t think so. People drinking alcohol occasionally aren’t said to get in an “alcohol culture”, people addicted to smoking aren’t said to be in a “smoking culture” so why would someone taking drugs (that often aren’t damaging health at all) make you get into a “drug culture”? (well, if it does, it’s because it happens in dark alleys and stuff, as it would happen much less often in a controlled environment with rules. Hey! An argument for legal pot-smoking!)
surely it has nothing to do with special interests and a 200+ year old deeply rooted American temperance movement.
spoken like a true quitter.
Here, here. Looking into the history of the issue a few years back was quite an eye-opener for me. The fear-mongering about pot has been going on for so long… you look at the old propaganda and it’s just funny, really.
The majority of pot smokers I know are what the common man would consider successful, well-rounded individuals. Pity they aren’t more vocal in support of legalization, but with all the negative messages about it in mainstream culture I guess it’s no surprise.
I’d estimate that I know or have known 40 different pot smokers in my life. I have never seen it make anyone violent, I have never seen it make anyone angry, I have never seen it make anyone want to do another person wrong.
number of deaths related to smoking weed and not doing something stupid like driving: 0
So psyched one of my graphs made it to the front page.
Well done. I’m printing this onto a T-shirt as soon as I get some of those printer transfer sheets.
I’d love to be one of the stoners in the intersection of the graph, but as a closet cultivator I can’t proclaim my allegiance too loudly.
You’d be surprised at the number of people with “the drive and initiative” (even high-ranking government officials and party leaders) that, even if they have never smoked themselves, recognize that prohibition is an ineffective waste of effort in the war on drugs. And when it comes to marijuana, it can’t really be called a war, more of a one-sided intolerance.
As if. I’m willing to bet more than half of government officials have either smoked pot or smoke it regularly. You do know the government used to experiment with acid, right?
Flawless victory.
Screw semantics, this graph made me laugh inappropriately loudly in the workplace.
I for one hope it is not only never legalized but that the penalties for possessing even a tiny amount of marijuana are made far, far stricter.
It is a menace and a gateway drug and we need to eliminate it from all parts of our country NOW. Same with guns, alcohol, and every other disgusting vice out there!
GROW THE HELL UP PEOPLE!
I believe that experiment’s already been done and failed horribly.
I for one would love to see tobacco products outlawed. I see absolutely no good reason for people smoking cigarettes; they cause millions of deaths; I have never talked to a smoker that didn’t wish he or she had never started. Yet even with all that, I realize it would be foolish to outlaw tobacco or even alcohol again.
On the other hand I do think pot has a place as far as pain relief goes as well as its sedative properties. And it’s less toxic by far to your body than alcohol, especially if you use a smokeless pipe. So why not legalize if people are already going to use it anyway. That’s as unrealistic as expecting the general populus not to drink.
That’s not the way the real world works.
Ironic. A baby that doesn’t understand the concept of “moderation” is crying for people to “grow up”.
WIN! I wonder why t.v. isn’t on Again’s list, or why she’s using the internet at all for that matter. You need moderation to use either.
Wasn’t that pretty much what the 18th amendment said? And didn’t that lead (in part) to the rise of The Mafia in the US?
At least people with similar views to yours are generally anti-sex as well. Not reproducing would be a good idea.
Kind of sad really, how only one of them is smiling.
So, we want to legalize more death? Join the Army if you want to throw your life away for little reason!
Got any facts to back up this statement? Or are you just being a troll?
Several hundred soldiers dead all so we can support a clearly corrupt government in Afghanistan.
Several hundred soldiers dead all so we can support a clearly corrupt government in Iraq.
I think those are all the facts you need.
The gateway drug argument is bunk. Alcohol could be considered the same. So could gasoline for that matter – you can huff it and get a high.
Re: health. The goverrnment concerns itself with actuarial [financial statistic] data. How much money does it cost the government to treat a marijuana smoker’s health ailments versus the costs of incarcerating dealers? If legalized, how much money could be gained from tax income versus healthcare costs? Even for tobacco I suspect it’s profitable from a government standpoint to take tax revenue, and apply it to treating resulting diseases (in Canada). In the US where the government has less exposure to healthcare costs the balance would be even further over. Again, not incarcerating dealers saves the Government a great deal of money, never mind the costs of sending the kid with half an ounce in his pocket to trial and maybe juvie.
Furthermore, the societal costs – yes, there are obvious social costs to drug use. With marijuana though, these are minimal and the exact influence is debatable, and depends mostly on the “gateway drug” effect. As I’ve said, I don’t believe “gateway” to be a particularly compelling argument.
However, let’s think about the deeper costs. With legal weed, growing it becomes a legal activity. No longer does it need to be hidden in basements. One of the leading causes of house fires in parts of Canada is shoddy wiring from grow ops (and how much electricity is stolen through Hydro meter bypasses?). A grow op house has to be gutted to be habitable. A grow op house can be anywhere and brings a criminal element to many neighbourhoods. Let’s not even get into what happens when a Meth lab blows up. How much serious crime is related to drugs? What happens to gangs when you take away their primary source of income? There is an enormous illegal weapons/drugs trade. Remove half that and what happens to crime rates?
By legalizing it the government ceases to lose money to drugs. It gains it. By legalizing it you devastate criminal cartels and remove a primary source of serious crime from the streets.
So, yes. Decriminalization, or full legalization, is perhaps the best solution all-round.
I am well educated, professionally employed, own a nice little house, a Mustang, and two dogs. And I enjoy a good blunt once in a while.
I don’t smoke pot, but I do think it should be legal… I mean nice, organic FDC approved weed has to be safer than something that might be laced with who knows what.
Pluss it’s pretty… I’d love to grow some ornamental marijuana along the front of my house.
I can think of one major reason why legalization would be bad:
The government currently makes far more money now on fines and penalties than it ever will through taxation.
That it then turns around and wastes to house otherwise decent and contributive citizens in jail for the possession of pot?
Exactly. It costs, on average, $24,000 to house an inmate for a year in the US. Factor in trial costs and it’s an enormous sum of money even for a short jail term. Offset this by a few thousand dollars in fines? Yeah, right…
… but doesn’t the ever-so-slim overlap of the graph send the message that it should NOT be legalized? Or WAS that your point, dangerroth? Last time I checked, not having drive and initiative was a bad thing. I really don’t have an opinion on the legalization issue, but… but…. ? Never mind.
Yeah the graph’s just wrong. I’m a fully funded grad student, working 60+ hours a week to finish a thesis, and smoke on a regular basis, as do many of my friends who definitely do not lack drive and initiative.
Just because some dumb people smoke pot doesn’t mean pot makes you dumb.
It’s a sad stereotype. But we should come to expect that from this country. After all, we still have racist bigotry.
I’m fairly sure it was supposed to be a light-hearted comedy graph. Not a serious comment on world politics.
The reason I think this is that both circles in the venn-diagram have eyes and a mouth, which is not something you see on most serious charts.
I could try to explain the comedy, if you want, but it might ruin the whole ambiance of the post itself.
They had a pro-pot march near where I lived. Reports said the attendance was high.
lol!
I am for legalizing marijuana however to say that it doesn’t kill if a falsehood.
Driving under the influence is as bad with Marijuana as it is with alcohol.
In a large study of almost 3,400 fatally injured drivers from three Australian states (Victoria, New South Wales, and Western Australia) between 1990 and 1999, drugs other than alcohol were present in 26.7 percent of the cases.7 These included cannabis (13.5 percent), opioids (4.9 percent), stimulants (4.1 percent), benzodiazepines (4.1 percent), and other psychotropic drugs (2.7 percent). Almost 10 percent of the cases involved both alcohol and drugs.
# In 2008, an estimated 12.4 percent of persons age 12 and older drove under the influence of alcohol at least once in the past year. This percentage has dropped since 2002, when it was 14.2 percent. The 2008 estimate corresponds to 30.9 million persons.2
# Driving under the influence of an illicit drug or alcohol was associated with age. In 2008, an estimated 7.2 percent of youth age 16 or 17 drove under the influence. This percentage steadily increased with age to reach a peak of 26.1 percent among young adults age 21 to 25. Beyond the age of 25, these rates showed a general decline with increasing age.2
# Also in 2008, among persons age 12 and older, males were nearly twice as likely as females (16.0 percent versus 9.0 percent) to drive under the influence of an illicit drug or alcohol in the past year.2
The above was copied directly from the NIDA. DUI kills whether it is alcohol or drugs.
hahahaha. itz tru :p
I saw a comment saying weed kills brain cells and didnt feel like reading all of the comments to see if someone corrected that person, because thats false, weed actually helps RETAIN brain cells, not kill them off
i smoke pot alot, and this graph is ridiculously true
marijuana does hurt your motivation sometimes, it happens.
For the people saying marijuana is a gateway drug by introducing you into the drug counter culture, I urge you to think about this.
What would be more of a gateway to hard drugs:
A.) Using cash to meet up with a career drug dealer to get your bag of weed, and often have an attempt at an upsell thrown at you.
B.) Going to the store, and buying weed from a standard store clerk.
If you legalize weed, people no longer deal with drug dealers, and no longer have the other illicit drugs right under their nose.
And to the comments about weed smokers never getting anything done, or providing to society. Take a look at Richard Branson, having a net worth of roughly 5 billion seems successful to me. And look at politicians: Barack Obama has admitted to smoking frequently in the past, and if you are a republican, take a look at George W Bush and Sara Palin, they both admitted to smoking in the past.
(A) would be more of a gateway to hard drugs, because (A) results in the purchaser being introduced to the drug counter culture.
That’s exactly the argument for why pot is a gateway drug. It’s not because the pot intrinsically makes you want to try harder drugs. It’s because the steps necessary to get pot expose the user to a culture where not only pot but harder drugs as well are normal and acceptable.
I usually hate folks that say this, but I gotta do it; I’m incredibly baked right now
How do you share your graphs so they show up on this home page like this?
The problem is not that all, or even most, people who smoke pot recreationally are stoners who can’t get their act together. The problem is that smoking pot is still stigmatized. Respectable people who smoke pot are not likely to step forward and admit it.
i was stoned when i made my above comment
Pot is not a “gateway” drug, it doesn’t make you do other drugs. Could you possibly come across other drugs because you use pot, sure, some % of people will try other drugs, but not all. Same with alcohol, could it lead you to do other things, yes, does it happen to everyone, no. Pot does not make you stupid. I’ve been smoking for 30 years and I consider myself as smart as or smarter than my friends who don’t smoke. Do pot smokers sometimes like to sit around and veg out, sure, so what, it doesn’t mean they are not motivated. Plenty of people sit around all day on the weekend drinking beer, watching football, or doing nothing, are they “unmotivated” also? I have NEVER come even close to having an accident while driving high, but alcohol, yes, that will do it. You’re more likely to get pulled over for driving to slow when you’re stoned!!! To the poster “Again” you are ignorant, ignorant to the facts. Ignorant does not mean stupid. Me, I’m just like Wedgeman. I’m successfully employed and have been for 30 years. I own a home, I’m married, have two kids, nice cars…….
The potential taxes gained by legalization would greatly exceed the fines collected on penalties. And the cost of incarceration just makes it more expensive in lost revenue for the government. The graph itself tells a very simple truth. Why should I spend my time trying to get pot legalized when I can smoke it whenever, wherever I want since it is easily accessible? It does not mean pot smokers are not motivated, it’s just that the majority of us don’t are worried about getting arrested so why worry about it. I am very educated on this subject and the majority of the people who are against legalization have never tried it, think it is a “sin” or are members of a specific demographic who want to keep things the way they are because they would have to answer to their constituents, yes, politicians. And most of them are hypocrites anyway. If people would just mind their own business and quit trying to force their beliefs on others who disagree with them, this whole issue would be a non-issue.
weed would not be a gate way drug if you did not have to purchase it illegally
Yet, notice, which one’s happier?
Wrong-way driver mom from NY who killed 8 people including herself was a habitual pot smoker. FWIW.
Was she also a habitual food eater? Or air breather? Did she ever look at an animal? Had she sneezed at all within the previous 7 days? Saying she was a habitual pot smoker does not make it the cause of the accident. Not even remotely. Also, a link to the story would be appreciated, you could just be making this up.
… and drunk at the time. You know, FWIW.
The lady was DRUNK and STONED. She was clearly too far gone to be a driving a vehicle, there is no question smoking pot and heavy drinking, which is what she was doing, can be a fatal and tragic combination…
hahaha funny! I want it legalized, but I actually don’t smoke anything. I just don’t think pot is really as bad as a commercial cigarette
I would appreciate it being legalized at least for medical use, to help both my parents pain management issues and my own nausea due to a stomach condition (gastroparesis). The drugs available to us can kill our livers and have tons of side effects, some of which they are still finding out about. I think a little pot could not harm my family more then the 15 bottles of prescription meds we have.
I agree with Zeathea about using it medically (part of the reason pot’s illegal in the first place is because they don’t want people being able to grow a miracle drug in their backyards, they want to make profit off of chemically made research drugs.) Mother nature has proven to be the best chemist, and I wonder sometimes if its even ethical to try to make a natural plant illegal. By the way if anyone reading this doesn’t like drugs, then think about this: The law does more harm to “drug abusers” then the drugs do. If our well being is the government’s concern then that’s a no brainer.
“I’ve never had a problem with drugs. I’ve had problems with the police.”
-Keith Richards