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As a Walmart employee i give this graph 2 thumbs up.
For the record, some fat people are not fat because they don’t want to exercise, but because there’s some physical condition that keeps them from exercising. My aunt (physical therapist) works with a lot of people like this. Apparently, when they get an injury or illness that stops them from exercising traditionally, many people give up on it altogether, not realizing that adapted recreation even exists. And the doctors apparently can’t think past keeping them from outright dying enough to refer them to a PT who can teach them how to stay active even with mobility impairments, chronic pain, and fatigue. Then said doctor wonders how they gained fifty pounds… Well duh!!
So now it’s the doctors fault you’re fat?
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
sure if the said doctor uses wikipedia to get thru several years of college…
but its the best way to do it
Actually, I will add to this that some people actually *are* physically incapable of losing that much weight.
My mother for instance, has nasty arthritis, a damaged spine, and two bad knees. And fibromyalgia. The only exercise she can get is swimming, which she can’t do nearly enough to lose the amount of weight that she would need to to “not look fat”, not least because she works full time running her own business. She has literally even tried semi-starving herself to get her body to burn off the excess… all it does is make her metabolism slow up so that she doesn’t lose more than like 10 pounds before she starts gaining it back. She can’t walk anything but a short distance without one or two canes, and she can’t walk significant distances at all… she’s forced to use a wheelchair part of the time at work, an electric wheelchair around the house, and those riding carts when shopping. Yet she looks fairly young, and she sometimes lends her cane to my dad, so you can’t always “tell”.
Oh, and her insurance copays would be too high to afford any (mind you, already risky) surgeries like that stomach stapling thing.
So, yeah. This chart would be pretty funny if it weren’t painfully obvious that its maker doesn’t know anyone like my mother, who is unfortunately a good deal overweight, but literally can’t help it, and is also severely disabled in terms of walking. Then, too, we have my boyfriend – who has a herniated disc at age 24. Lack of insurance and sheer bad luck have made sure it’s unfixed at this point, and he’s gained considerable weight, precisely because there are very few types of exercise he can do for any extended period of time (he recently had to stay on his feet for one work shift, and came home unable to do anything except lie down until the next day). He actually does have trouble walking and most especially standing for long periods of time. Yet he tries not to walk with a cane at least some of the time, so there again, not even necessarily the obvious clue…
This reminds me actually of all those people who complain that a lot of the people who have handicapped placards and plates “look just fine OMG HOW DARE THEY, THOSE FRAUDSTERS”; it makes me wonder if they have ever even thought that there are some people with disabilities that aren’t outwardly obvious. :\
I never assume fat people on those things at any given place are automatically “just lazy”… I tend to assume they have frequent or occasional back and/or leg problems, which are probably contributing to their weight problems. In fact, in my area, we have a lot of middle-aged and older people who have exactly that kind of problem.
I know it’s easy to stereotype and even easier to wonder or assume that these people might be lazy… and certainly a few of them are, because that’s human nature. But a great number of them aren’t “just fine, only lazy”. :\ A lot of them look moderately-healthy-but-overweight, and in fact, are actually physically quite disabled.
i think its great that you refer to them as fat people. obese is something people think is normal, but if you start refering to the mongloids as fat, not obese, then maybe they will start to do something about their hideous buldge.
Actually, lots of fat people refer to *themselves* as fat. It’s just fat, after all. You don’t need to call it something polite unless you think it’s something bad. Lots of fat people figure they don’t need a euphemism any more than they need one for “thin”, which is just as unhealthy, only not as common or unpopular.
its just Politicly Correct rubbish. I got an idea how we should label people.
Thin
Normal
Fat
Very Fat
Ugly Fat
Have to be Put Down Fat
The last one is only fair for everyone else. Ever been on the bus with a very fat person, its anti-social taking that much room of public space.
Actually, after normal it’s big, healthy, husky, fluffy and DAMN!!!
*feels ashamed for stealing comedic material*
…..
‘fluffy’?
If you’re curious where the heck that came from, watch some Gabriel Iglesias comedy specials.
You probably won’t regret it.
(Btw, @Farris: there’s a sixth level now! He calls it “OH HELL NO”)
“mongloids” L2Notfailatcomments
I was about to say something very rude, but I shall say this: You need to eat a proportionate amount to the amount of exercise you do and the amount of food your body can process. If you suddenly find yourself unable to do as much exercise as previously, even if that just means going from doing every day activities to not being able to do much, then you will need to reduce the amount of food you eat.
The classic one is people who have knee problems – they blame the fact that they’re fat on the fact that their knees won’t hold up to much exercise, but they make their condition worse by carrying the extra weight. Some people don’t want to take responsibility for themselves, some may have an eating disorder of some discription, but you can’t make excuses forever.
What about fat people who don’t eat much to begin with? They do exist, you know.
They are the exception, and not their fault that they’re fat but they need the excercise even more because it’s good for their health and metabolism.
My sister was an ICU critical care nurse for ten years. She worked 16 hour shifts, as a norm, and specialized in cardiac-surgery after-care. Then a patient monitor fell on her (think something like a 28inch NON-flatscreen television — it was mounted in sheetrock). She saw it falling and pushed the 300lb patient it was going to hit in the head out of the way, and instead it hit her on the upper back, crushing several vertebrae in her neck, and doing other damage, as well. At that time, even though she lived on under 1000 calories a day, she still weighed 220 (some days she had a yogurt or two. others she’d have an order of sushi… mostly she lived on black espresso in massive quantities), despite a very active lifestyle. She already had fibromyalgia, and severe congenital issues with her knee (surgery at 15), but even a level of pain that would have most people laying in bed and crying for their mother didn’t stop her from nearly working herself to death. The crushed vertebrae, however, have.
Since the accident, several years ago, she’s developed severe neurological problems to go with the gross physical ones, and has been, obviously, unable to work. She’s gained a further fifty pounds, despite the fact that she’s basically stopped eating (I’m lucky if I can get that daily yogurt down her). I promise you that she is NOT inactive by choice, in any way shape or form, and not only would the exercise of walking through the store not be good for her, it could, in fact, cause further damage. Even if it didn’t, however, the excruciating pain it would cause would far outweigh any theoretical benefit. People think of walking as ‘gentle’ exercise, but when you have spinal conditions, it’s not. It’s torture, of the sort that would leave her unable to move at _all_ for a week or better, causing severe depression and self-loathing to go along with the physical pain, and thus do far more harm than good. Having people sneer and point and make nasty comments at ‘the lazy lard-ass wasting the cart’ doesn’t help, either. You don’t know the medical history of the people riding those carts — you’re not their doctor, if you’re a doctor at all — so you cannot justifiably say that it’s good for their health and metabolism, when you don’t know the details of that health and metabolism. You probably mean well, but the attitude is still hurtful, and born of ignorance of the actual situation.
It’d be nice if people, rather than assuming the worst, would occasionally think, instead, “Gee, just because I can’t see anything wrong with that person, that doesn’t mean there isn’t something, and they probably have a good reason for doing what they’re doing.” In other words, instead of an attitude that paints most people are lazy/selfish/stupid/inconsiderate/thoughtless/weak, it’d be nice if people would give others the benefit of the doubt, and assume that they know what’s best for their own health and are not likely to commandeer a very limited-supply item for no good reason. Frankly, such an attitude would be healthier and more beneficial to the person themselves, as well as those they’re looking upon — it’s hard to be happy when you think that everyone around you is a selfish jerk.
I have to totally agree with this. For some people it’s a lot more difficult to stay what people would consider “thin” because their natural chemistry is working against them. Yes, bad knees can be caused by weight, but it can also start with something else. Please, take into consideration the possible different situations of everyone.
While I can understand the general message of not just jugding someone, the scientist in me just simply boggles at the scenario you paint. Given the fact that body fat alone requires a certain amount of energy to just maintain (never mind moving it around), it’d require some way of breaking phyisics for your relative to keep their weight (much less add more) given their tiny calorie intake (as a somewhat overweight person myself, I believe it take me about 1500 calories to simply maintain my weight). So I’m left between disbelieving the story (or at least her intake) or she might be carrying around literally ‘dead’ weight, or something even more bizarre.
Yes, it is bizarre. But I’ve kept track of everything she ate over a month, and it averages out to about 950 calories a day. Theoretically she should need over twice that to maintain her weight… but she doesn’t. She does have a severe thyroid disorder, however, and had an episode of congestive heart failure due to fluid retention just a few months ago. She also is prone to massive vitamin deficiencies, so what the doctor and I think is happening is that her body thinks she’s starving, and instead of consuming the fat, it starts scavenging muscle tissue and other things — leaving her in the contradictory states of obesity and malnutrition at the same time, and adding to her pain and fatigue.
I think we’re talking about people who actually go out and do things. This graph is a generalization after all. We’re all well aware of the small percentage of people who cannot change their weight the way normal people do.
This makes up a very small percentage of persons, less than 1% of obese people in the U.S. Most of my patients get fat because they are lazy, end of story. We eat too much junk and we don’t exercise. Trying to blame it on thyroid problems and injuries is just making excuses.
And it’s ‘doctors’ like you who dismiss people with legitimate problems as ‘just fat’, and tell them that all they need is exercise and they’ll be fine, thus driving them into a nasty cycle of self-loathing, depression, desperation, and hopelessness. Good work, doc.
You’re welcome, fatty. Eat another cheeseburger and quit whining on the net about your problems.
What a bedside manner YOU must have!
Lovely, isn’t he? Don’t worry, eventually he’ll ignore something important and verifiable in one of his patients and end up being sued for malpractice and losing his license. Fortunately, there are some doctors out there who are willing to treat us slovenly fat people with more than dieting advice, and some of us actually end up with adequate medical treatment, no matter how little we deserve such. Amazingly, when this happens, we frequently end up losing weight as a side effect of not being curled up in bed in excruciating pain or spending half our day throwing up. Amazing, isn’t it? Must be one of those inexplicable miracles… naw, we’re probably just lying about it, since all fat people are weak-willed liars, after all.
Even more unbelievably, some of us even have rather nice lives, in which we have people to love and are — however disgusting and lazy we are — loved in return. We even manage to tear ourselves away from the feedbag long enough to have fulfilling careers and enjoyable hobbies, once our imaginary non-weight-related issues are treated, even though we’re _still fat!!!!_ How crazy is that? That placebo effect sure is something, huh?
Wonder if his blind, judgmental, uncaring attitude, his oh-so-clever and original rudeness, and his badly attempted cruelty brings him even half as much happiness and satisfaction? Probably not, or at least it’s not likely to, in the long-run. Petty, bitter people who indulge in casual cruelty and demonstrate a lack of empathy rarely have the capacity to form the emotional bonds which are necessary for a human being to achieve true happiness. Instead, they go through life with some vague awareness that something is missing, angry at everyone and everything for the lack of what they can’t understand, and eventually drive away everyone who tries to care for them. Ultimately, most of them never do understand what they’re missing, and end up old, miserable, and alone, hating their own company as much as everyone else does, but lacking the guts to put themselves (and everyone else) out of their misery. So, it’s not really something to get angry about, or let bother you — it’s something that is deserving of pity and compassion, a tragedy that will affect not only him, but countless others he comes into contact with, for the rest of his life.
Seriously? Psychoanalyzing someone on a lol site? I have to think you are much more sad than this person. Least he has a job and works instead of posting pithy commentary on a joke website all day.
(I don’t think he has a job, let alone a doctorate)
Unfortunately, having run into doctors just like him, I can completely believe he has both.
Granted, when you think about what they put potential doctors through to earn that doctorate, it’s a wonder any of them come out of it sane. If you’d intentionally designed a program to remove all empathy for their future patients from would-be doctors, you couldn’t do better than what’s already in place. Even for those who go into it with the most sincere desire to help and do good, it takes a pretty amazing person to come out it with anything resembling compassion.
Wow, can you shut up? You’re making yourself look stupid.
Oh nevermind, too late.
You seem like one of those people who take things said on the internet a little too seriously. Sad.
…and you don’t seem too awesome yourself, Lindsey. And, not really intellectually flexible enough to stop and think for a moment, here.
Now, I’m all for “the internet is not always srs bsns”, especially on a “lolsite”… certainly, there are people who “take themselves too seriously”. BUT.
She has a valid point, or rather two valid points:
First, that there ARE doctors out there who, frankly, suck at their jobs because they’re so damn disconnected that they can’t treat their patients properly, and I do mean in a medical sense. And that the current system seems to cause a level of burnout that makes it easy for even otherwise good doctors to fall into these behavioral patterns. This goes even well beyond people who are overweight, into people with other issues, too; for instance, for years, many doctors thought (and some still do) that people were “making up” fibromyalgia symptoms… even when they weren’t. And a lot of doctors are reluctant to prescribe painkillers in case the patient “doesn’t really need it”… except, you know, this includes the patient who practically needs morphine to get through the day, so they do “really need it”, and thus have to live with a great deal of pain.
Her other valid point (to paraphrase) was that jokes like this AREN’T ACTUALLY FUNNY, in the sense of “telling it like it is in a funny way”… precisely because real life isn’t as conveniently open to cynicism as this chart portrays it.
In other words, you see “haha, lazy fat people joke. Those fat lazy bastards suck!”. What a lot of people who are or (in my case) who know people who are overweight BECAUSE of serious health issues and not vice versa, this becomes, “haha, joke that perpetuates a harmfully pervasive cultural stereotype that equates every overweight person with the people who are overweight out of laziness, thus making those who truly can’t help their weight have to live with stares and shame”.
No, not everything on the interwebs is srs bsns.
But not every joke is “harmless” either, and people have a right to complain a little if the see the not-so-harmless kind.
TLDR version: you’re a lot more self-absorbed sounding than that other woman and this joke actually falls under “Not cool, man. Not cool.”‘ simply because of reality; she has a right to say so.
same here
Then there are those of us who have recently had foot surgery and can’t walk very far. Be careful not to judge by appearances only.
w/e fatty…
Wow! Passing generic insult! You’re the GREATEST TROLL EVER!
I know, he so guud!
ur gr8 at teh inglish! teech me plz??? i am bad at spel wirdz
Wouldn’t that just go under ‘people who actually need them’? >.>
Yes.
It really depends on if they’re fat or not. If they are fat then it could go under fat people riding them before it would have to be placed under “people who need them”
And those with sciatica which doesn’t have any visible indicators but makes walking excruciating
Then you’re under “people who actually need it”.
i saw a morbidly obese woman on a motorized cart once, and her cart was full of donuts and frozen pizzas and pork rinds. and diet coke.
Good for her for going on a diet.
never understood the Diet Coke capper, I’ve seen large people down ungodly amounts of food and then the polish it off with diet coke, WTF?
regular coke and diet taste different. some people like the diet coke taste better
Really,I always thought diet coke tastes like coke passed through a toilet.Just like any kind of Pepsi.
That’s why diet Coke was invented, back in the day – it was never a diet version of Coke, but an attempt to create a diet drink that tasted like Pepsi (in order to compete with Pepsi/diet Pepsi). Coke Zero is the “real” diet Coke in that it’s a diet version (high fructose corn syrup replaced with aspartame) of Coke. So, yes, diet Coke tastes like Pepsi.
I hate the taste of regular coke/pepsi.
Just for the taste of it- Diet Coke.
Looks like a lot of people who need to ride them choose not to.
Or they can’t because some fat asshole took the last one.
comment win
Or they don’t because they know judgmental assholes like you will be looking at them if they do.
From my own experience, the bubble with the morbidly obese people needs to be bigger. I rarely see any one else use the cart. Even my grandmother who recently had knee surgery will walk, because it’s understood that nothing helps an injury like light exercise.
Yeah, right? That’s the same with mine. Though she just doesn’t want to look dependent, but still. But right, with the obese bubble? When we go down to Disney in Florida too. x.x
I’m aware this chart only applies to americans, but: When you say -morbidly obese- you are aware how hard walking for them is?
I say the one who made this graph rarely has an idea of the behaviour of the human body.
(on a sidenote, i myself weight only 48kg (need to gain quite a bit) but even I know that saying that -a bit of exercise- in this context is seriously nonsense.)
For the sake of getting past it I’ll give it to you that once somebody is THAT big they have a hard time jumping on the treadmill, but don’t you think they should have started BEFORE they were 500 pounds.
I LOVE how ignorant the “americans” only comment is, especially since right after that you told them they are nonsense.
Well, it’s mostly americans who do believe the thing with the pillows (look further down for what I mean). Sadly.
Aside from that: You do know that weigth can be a genetic-problem/otherwise body-chemsitry-issue?
True, a many people eat too much, but when it comes to -morbidly obese- there’s often an additional factor that is -lack of workout- Aside from that it’s still nonsense to claim -every overweight person would only need an itty-bitty-little bit of exercise-.
Apologise to Mina, I just saw you just said what I said before AFTER hitting the -add comment- button.
I used to be fat from 10-14 years old – around 150 lbs outside of the average weight for my age. I became fat when I started Junior High (I skipped 2 grades). I don’t even know how it started, I don’t remember myself eating pounds of foods at 1 serving EVER, it just happened. But I’m 16 and when I started highschool my friends urged me to lose weight and I’ve lost 97 so far.
97lbs!?
…uh.
…careful. Some of that could easily be muscle, which is twice as dense as fat. It literally weighs twice as much, but is obviously a lot healthier to have. In fact, a lot of people despair when they start exercising and “don’t lose any weight” – because they don’t realize they’re losing FAT and gaining muscle.
Unless of course you’ve lost this weight entirely through physical exertion and the avoidance of Hostess snack cakes, in which case ignore this comment
If genetics played nearly as big a role in obesity as americans like to think, there would be fat kids in the videos of starving africans. The truth people don’t like to admit is, you get fat by eating more than you need. If your body genetically needs less food than the person beside you, don’t go eating away then blame your body for getting fat.
But once again, it’s a quite typical amaerican mentality behind it. An example: Who knows the movie -supersize me-? At the time that movie was MADE european McDonalds, BurgerKing etc already had ‘healthy food’ (salad, low-fat recipes, etc) on their menue for quite a while.
McDonald’s salads have more fat than their burgers. Read the dietary info.
Not if you leave off the cheese & croutons, and either don’t get meat or just go with grilled chicken, and then avoid drowning it in dressing. They’re not _great_ salads, but they’re not that bad. So far, even McDonald’s hasn’t figured out a way to inject fat into lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers, or carrots.
I hope.
Well, no.
That’s a stupid way of putting it. I get what you’re “trying” to say, but it’s still a dumb way of putting it.
Of course it’s not “only” genetics… but saying “If genetics played nearly as big a role in obesity as americans [sic] like to think, there would be fat kids in the videos of starving africans[sic]” is one of the stupidest, most hyperbolic arguments I’ve ever seen, precisely because if ANYONE actually actively STARVES, of course they lose all their body fat… and muscle. And other tissue! Which is why you don’t have fat anorexics!
But you can’t also discount the role that genes, hormones and the environment interacting can have on individuals. For instance: there’s a small bit of evidence that those who had to go on a heavily rationed but NOT starving diet shortly before puberty actually end up with healthier (more efficient) metabolisms and live longer… most Americans are too fortunate to have had this experience, even if they don’t pig out on cakes and pies, thus many of them will never have gained this boost.
Additionally, it seriously depends on what your ancestors’ niche was, as it were.
There’s some evidence that night owls actually have a biological difference from early risers in terms of being able to get by on less sleep by getting a “second wind” of sorts (both types of sleeping habits could be beneficial to either individuals or tribes, hence why we have both)… those who don’t get a certain amount of sleep per night tend more often to be overweight though, probably because their metabolisms are trained to horde for the times they stay awake for extra time.
There’s also a major difference, probably, between people whose ancestors developed to survive in temperate or tropical climates (in which excess weight could be a detriment), vs. those whose ancestors mostly grew up in say, Norway, in which you need a metabolism that can horde calories like there’s no tomorrow, otherwise you freeze to death.
And all of THIS is not even fully considering the fact that the vast majority of people, having come from a species that survived a few ice ages, have by default a metabolism that can easily skew itself towards “slow”.
This is, of course, NOT to say that none of us have any influence over how our genes are expressed but… seriously, dude. Get a better damn analogy.
That’s a very slippery slope. *Aside* from having medical conditions that have nothing to do with having an unhealthy lifestyle, if someone overweight (like myself) decided that it was easier to not exercise than to lose the weight, I would gain more weight, which would then make it harder to walk, so I would just use a motorized cart. Then I would gain even more weight due to the bigger lack of exercise, and then I really would have a medical condition.
You really can’t judge by appearances, though. I knew a girl in high school who had congestive heart failure. She looked morbidly obese, but it wasn’t fat–it was fluid that her body couldn’t re-absorb. I also know a woman with lymphodema. Same deal. She gets dirty looks from people who think she’s just fat, when in reality, a) most of it is fluid, and b) she’s in constant pain. Not to go all caretroll, but unless you personally know them, try not to judge.
And some of us who are in constant pain don’t use the carts, because we have a condition that doesn’t show, and don’t feel like dealing with the looks we’d get from people who just _know_ that we’re only fat and lazy. So instead, we just don’t go out much, and we cut any trip we do make short when the pain gets to be too much.
Wouldn’t the morbidly obese circle at least fall into the people who actually need them circle a little bit?
Just my thoughts. But graphs such as this are made by ignorant people by ignorant people who have, as said, little to no idea of the behaviour of the human body.
or people who, in every experience with fat asses, have been given dirty looks and then yelled at for buying the last box of doughnuts.
Because the 300 lb person needs them more than the 118 lb, 15 year old who, under doctors orders, needs to eat more, because they have the metabolism of a shrew.
Thank you for your comments in this thread. It’s nice to know that not _everyone_ is incapable of both thought and empathy.
don’t worry, with the way things are going with health care, the morbidly obese people will be forced to lose that weight.
THE SCARY BLACK MAN’S COMIN’ TER KILL ME!
What the hell? While I agree that the health care’s not THAT bad, and that it’s totally overblown, don’t steal my name and make me look ig’nant.
Why is there no intersection of obese people and people that need them. Are they not the same?
Not in the eyes of someone who apparently shares the believe that moving around when overweight is the same as moving around when stuffing pillows into one’s clothes to look overweight… (To all those who actually DO believe that: replace the pillows with bags and cement. Then the feeling is far more like the real thing)
Did someone watch Dr. Phil yesterday?
I know >< My sister's overweight, but she also can't use her legs and is in a wheelchair. So, technically, you're correct.
The motorized carts at wal-mart have, according to the manufacturer, a 250 lb weight limit. They are NOT designed to accommodate morbidly obese people. It costs an arm and a leg to replace the motors and repair them because people that are entirely to heavy use them.
Change “teenagers” to “twenty-somethings”
Who never, of course, have a non-obvious condition that makes them need the carts.
Thank you for your comments in this thread.
It takes a bit to get my back up, but the type of ignorance that makes people insult others because of assumptions that may or may not be correct about things that certainly aren’t their business–yeah, that bugs me.
That same ignorance and the attitude that goes with it once caused me to end up passing out in the middle of WalMart, after I’d just got out of the hospital after a four-month stay. My husband had begged me to use one of the carts, but I’m ashamed to say that I allowed a nasty comment by a smug jock-type at the customer service counter to embarrass me enough that I didn’t. Four months of pancreatitis with a couple of major surgeries thrown in does nasty things to one’s endurance…. and no matter how healthy and like I needed the exercise I looked, it was too much for me. I got overheated, then bent just right to cause severe pain in a healing incision, and fell flat on my face. Stupidest thing I’ve ever done; I _know_ that the opinion of ignorant jerks shouldn’t matter at all, but I still let it hurt me, both emotionally and physically… it’s hard not to. Heck, I still do it (the hospital stay left me with some major, but not particularly visible, physical disabilities, and on a bad day it’s truly both dangerous and stupid for me to assume I can walk more than a block or so), and I totally know better. I just wish people would take a moment to think, and understand that their words can hurt those they’re directing them at. Of course, most of them, if they did, would just think, “So what? The lard-butt deserves it,” so I guess it’s hopeless. Empathy isn’t something that is often found, these days; smug-superiority and disdain are more the norm.
Anyway, I wanted to thank you, too, for your comments in this thread. They’re a little bit of hope in a world which is vastly lacking in it.
Change “twenty-somethings” to “Drunk College students”
Does this graph assume that all morbidly obese people use the carts? Shouldn’t a portion of that circle be outside of the people who use the carts circle? Because before my mom had gastric bypass surgery, she never used those carts.
How is this limited to just Wal-Mart?
ya what about target or the grocery store?? or even toys ‘r’ us?????!?!?!?!
Last time I checked, TRU didn’t have motorized carts. Wal-Mart however is infamous for them. And being evil of course.
Morbidly Obese circle should read “Lazy Fat People”, because I think that pretty much covers what the graphmaker was talking about, and is also mean-spirited.
Morbidly Obese may be a true label for some of the overweight people that ride those things, but unless you’re their personal physician, you can’t make that call.
Now, Lazy Fat People, on the other hand, much more generic and fits into what you’re saying, ie: fat people who don’t need to use the carts use the carts. This would exclude the fat people who use them because they have an actual condition that requires them to, and the fat people who are morbidly obese that choose to walk around (I myself fall close to the morbidly obese range, but would never use one of those motorized carts).
oh really? it seems like they would. but how should i know i haven’t been in there for years.
Good call–I’m morbidly obese by clinical definition, but have used those carts ONCE, when my sciatica was so bad I was on crutches to walk. The rest of the time, i’d rather walk.
I think you hit my main problem with this chart squarely on the head. Kudos.
Because we can all tell just by looking at someone whether they have a medical condition that requires the cart simply by how much they weigh.
Such win.
When my fiance hurt his knee at work (and was in a leg brace.. but we still needed to go shopping.. since I’m not allowed to drive his car) and we went to Walmart.. we had to wait for a freaking motorized shopping cart.
I understand people being obese and not being able to walk and all that.. but when every single person I see using those carts has all junk food and crap in it.. I have no sympathy because as was said.. they should have quit while they were ahead and didn’t get their asses so damn fat they can’t walk.
Yeah, so I’m “obese” (my BMI is in the obese range) but I don’t have a disability so I don’t use the cart. Being obese doesn’t make a person disabled. I go to the gym and run. Being disabled makes a person disabled, and may also make them gain weight if they can’t exercise. On the other hand, their disability might be completely independent of their weight. From what I hear it’s not that easy to use those carts–you can’t reach everything and if you are able to stand up to get the thing on the top shelf then people give you dirty looks for being lazy.
From what I hear, BMI is kind of a joke, since it doesn’t really account much, or at least properly, for the difference between muscle mass and fat. Especially since muscle is twice as dense.
I used to work at a Wal-Mart… The orange circle needs to be about 3x bigger.
At 62 years of age I have arthritis i my right knee and also in my lower back. this makes it difficult for me to walk, (even with a cane) or or stand for more that 10 minutes of time. I DO use and appreciate the fact that there are carts out there for disabled folks.
I am 16 years of age, and I have spine problems and lower back abnormalities and every time I go to Wal-Mart I have to wait 20 minutes for a motorized chair, so I usually go with my own
I work as a cashier at a supermarket. We only have four motorized carts in the entire store due to them constantly being stolen or broken. While yes, there are some overweight people that use them, they are far from the majority. I am sick and tired of seeing these teenagers use them. And yes, I understand that you shouldn’t judge by appearances. However, when a teen-aged kid comes through my lane with one of those carts, pays for his stuff, and proceeds to WALK without any problem from the store, that really makes me angry. While I was in high school, my knee started to hyper extend, so my doctor had me use crutches to take some of the weight off of it. So one time, when I went to a walmart, I was so sore and tired, I decided to use one of the motorized carts. People kept yelling at me, saying I didn’t need it because I was obviously a teenager, ignoring the fact that my crutches were in the basket, sticking out in such a way that it was impossible to NOT notice them.
This diagram doesn’t quite make sense. It says that all people who are teenagers who think they’re hilarious are people who use Walmart’s motorized shopping carts. Obviously, not ALL teenagers who think they’re funny use motorized shopping carts. The same works for for the obese people.
Ever heard of a thing called context?
*looks at your screenname* I’m not even trying to explain this to you. Waste of time.
While I agree with some of these comments, I do have to say that as someone who has dealt with weight problems my whole life, It does not always work out that I can walk around wal-mart. If I am in for a few things, that is one thing but if I am going to be there for a while, my back and my knees will not allow me to stand or walk for long periods of time. when you have back problems not related to weight then make rude comments about the obese. I will always forgo a cart to someone who obviously needs it. Some people can not walk for long periods of time and thier condition has nothing to do with weight. But I do agree that kids/teenagers who have nothing medically wrong with them shouldn’t be allowed to use them.
I’m sorry, but I go to Wal-mart everyother day and I have NEVER seen a teenager or college student or whomever ride the motorized carts for fun.
then i guess they are there on the days that you are not (and why would you need to visit the baby-eaters every other day?).
It seems like a lot of the Wal-Marts around here require you to go to the customer service desk to get a key. This prevents people that don’t the cart from having access to them.
…that sounds like a really brilliant solution. A hassle, but a good solution, since it keeps the batteries from being run down by people who don’t need ‘em. Hmm.
I’m overweight and I walk around wal mart and judge those who ride the scooter. Sure there are people who are heavy because of medical conditions, but come on, they are in the minority. It is one thing to be heavy, it is another thing to be so lazy and out of shape that you can’t walk around a store.
I agree with what this graph says about obese people. I’m clinically obese (my BMI is 32, and the cut off point between overweight and obese is 30), and it’s because of a psycological medication I used to take. It caused me to gain over 50 pounds in 2 months, and I have since gone to many doctors and PT groups involved with helping people who are overweight because of medical conditions. Saying that, almost all of the people I’ve met who are overweight from medical conditions like I am, are at least semi-active and very, very few choose to use things like electric carts/scooters. From experiance I’d say that the majority of people who do use things like that because they’re obese don’t have anything medically wrong with them, they’re just overeaters…
I suffer from arthritis and use a service dog for mobility. I rarely go to wal-mart anymore because the one locally to me can’t keep their cart in a safe condition for my service dog to walk next to me. The plastic cowling has been broken and although I have asked them repeatedly to fix it, it still scrapes my dog’s legs when she walks next to me.
As for the people I see riding them, I haven’t seen anyone I thought didn’t deserve it. Maybe because it is one of the smaller stores, and it is in a very small community. Occasionally they are all taken at the grocery store or wal-mart in which case I will sit and wait. Although my grocery store has gone so far as to have someone push me around in one of the other regular wheelchairs and helped me shop. Now THAT’S service! I do think that the users of mobility carts need to take responsibility and plug them back in when they are done. There is nothing more frustrating than running out of power with a full cart at the back of the store.
I used to work at Walmart, and what really got me frustrated were the adults who would come in and ride around in them, then on *each aisle* park the cart in the middle of an aisle and walk down to the end of the aisle to pick up an item, then walk back to the cart with no obvious physical impairments.
haha, I know exactly what your talking about, I work there right now and people do that often. They like to leave the carts at the back of the store so I have to bring them back to the front putting me in the purple circle.
As a fat chick who should exercise more and eat less, I totally agree. I go out of my way to not use one. Occasionally my sciata kills me, so I give in and use one and hate myself for it. But then a candy bar makes me feel all good again…
Since the people who actually need them, morbidly obese people, and hilarious teenagers have been covered already, what do the rest fall under?
Motorised shopping carts? You Americans are crazy!
Exactly my thought. Seems like total madness to me. Guess the prejudices about americans being fat is more true than I hoped :p
Oh for…
Look. All it is is a motorized wheelchair with a large basket. It’s intended as a courtesy for people with temporary or permanent disabilities, such as a broken leg or a spinal disorder and the like. It’s not any different from having a handicapped-only space near the entrance to a store, really.
Since so many big box stores nowadays are “self-service” before the actual checkout, i.e. you don’t typically have somebody there to push you around in a regular wheelchair or push your cart for you… well, it’s a viable enough solution.
You call it “crazy” or “madness”, I call it “corporate-level courtesy”.
Those carts are irritating! They go maybe 2 mph and they are clunky. I wouldn’t use one if my foot was falling off. whats the point I could crawl faster. I understand if people need them but other wise why use them.
The only thing funnier than the fat people using those things are the fat people using those things who fall asleep in the aisles. I’m not making that up by the way. I saw this whale lady using one and she was blocking 3/4 of the entire aisle as she slumped over and snored. Classic Walmart moment.