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So true! I hate seeing SUV’s in the carpool line that only pick up one child!
You hate seeing someone driving in the carpool late, which requires two people, while driving a vehicle with two people?
Yeah, I hate people adhering to the law too, those bastards.
Point of spelling: MsMs said “carpool line” as in the line in front of a school where the carpoolers can pick up their children.
Not “carpool lane” (or “late” as Wham, I presume typoed) which is the lane on the highway for cars carrying two or more people.
This is yet another example of why spelling is important, folks.
+500 points to Tourist, -500 points to Whambulance.
With this new rating system, these points are kind of obsolete. I will be in denial about this for a bit.
You forgot “men who are overcompensating for certain insecurities”.
We’re so easy to overlook, that’s why we need the big trucks.
Which is why women drive so many of them? Seriously, where I live it seems to be *only* women driving these houses on wheels.
Perhaps this would be effective as a venn diagram, so you could include the 70% “realized they bought into an absurd fad and now are desperate to trade their mistakes in for Priuses on craigslist.”
Except of course, you can’t show percentages in a Venn diagram.
Absolutely NONE of the graphs on GraphJam show actual numeric percentages, so it’s a moot point.
You mean: “Except, of course, you can’t show percentages in a Venn diagram.”
At what point did I suggest they would be shown AS a percentage? Thanks for your comment, though.
We need to stop letting the brits submit graphs. What the hell is a mum?
Mother
It is also a type of flower.
It’s also the word.
I believe you’ll find that ‘bird’ is the word. Not ‘mum’.
I was under the impression that everyone had heard
Don’t you know about the bird?
To quote Stewie Griffin, “Crap!”
That’s gonna be stuck in my head all evening now…
everybody knows that the bird is the word
Grease is the word.
Your name combined with your comment alone brings humor to every Brit on this site. Have fun wallowing in ignorance.
Your name and your comment proves why brits are twits that should fall off the face of the earth.
Have fun with your tooth.
I’m actually a european living in the states. I clearly have a better grasp of irony than you do. but your attempt at an insult made me chuckle all the same.
Yeah, why can’t the English speak proper English like they do in other countries?
Yes, because proper English was created by Americans, and not the English.
That’s why we don’t call it American.
Because the string of words you wrote isn’t English at all…
Translation: “Agreed, why can’t the British peoples conform to the revoltionist language which deems to name itself after the motherland?”
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.
Stupid graph, and so far, stupid comments. When it comes to vehicles, the phrase “size matters” is 100% correct. People that have SUVs buy them because they: carry a lot of stuff, have a family, and want to protect that family if they are ever involved in a wreck. You can ask any police officer who works wrecks, or any engineer who fancies himself as an accident reconstructionist.
So make your own, funnier graph. Rather than being part of the problem, why not be part of the solution?
Well, I’m an engineer and I know that SUVs aren’t safer on regular roads. The only time they are safer is when you’re driving through the wilderness. On regular roads, they’re harder to brake and stop, they roll over more easily, and they are more likely to go over guard rails. Just because it makes you feel secure doesn’t mean that it actually is. Also, having a family doesn’t require and SUV. You can fit 2-3 children and 2 adults in any sedan.
Yes. Fit my family of tall dutches with luggage going on a 4 day trip 3 hours away.
Depending on the size of your family, that’ll easily fit in any sedan.
We managed to get three dutch students (all 6′X”) in a 70’s beetle for a three-week camping trip. Ok, that wasn’t all to comfortable, but that was mostly the >30 degress weather and max speed of 100 km/h
If it got incredibly hot inside would that beetle become a dutch oven?
Win.
Thanks for being the voice of reason. People who think that SUVs are safer are ignorant. They do cause more damage to the other vehicle in a crash, though. I don’t want the death of someone else’s family on my conscience just because I want to drive like an A-hole. Smaller cars ore more maneuverable and less likely to get in an accident in the first place.
So you would rather the blood of your own family on someone else’s hands because you are driving a Kia?
And if you want more maneuverable, you should be driving a sports car.
You missed the point completely. SUVs are made of the same materials in the same thicknesses as Kias are. They’re just bigger, so they hit harder. They break just as easily though.
Wow ikr, ignorant much? Your assumption that everyone who drives an SUV drives like an a-hole could not be farther from the truth. Smaller cars less likely to be in an accident in the first place? Really? You clearly have no grasp on what happens in an accident. A very big chunk of accidents cannot be prevented, except by the person at fault. You think you’re going to “out maneuver” someone who runs a red light at an intersection and slams into your side? You seriously think your ability to turn quicker is going to prevent that? Chances are you aren’t going to see it until you get hit. But that’s fine, you’re just another teenager trying to act like they know everything. So I’ll excuse your ignorance. And this wanting the blood of another family on your hands is total BS. If you’re an attentive driver, paying attention, and following the traffic laws, you’ll never be at fault in an accident. Therefore, you won’t have their blood on your hands. You did nothing wrong, the other driver was negligent. If I had to guesstimate, probably 8/10 wrecks involing a truck/SUV vs a car, the passengers in the truck/SUV will usually live, whilst the passengers in the cars have a much lower chance. It all comes down to whether or not you value your life and the life of your family/passengers.
And Zephr, where to begin? In what scenario would you need to make a 90 degree turn at 30 mph? Other than just messing around, of course. As I said to ikr, pull your head out of your a$$ (feel lame censoring myself) and look up police accident reports regarding wrecks involving a truck/SUV vs a car. Because right now, you, and a lot of other people posting here are showing their true ignorance and believing the automakers who are banking off their small cars. Bigger is better.
Funny thing is, I drive a sedan (BMW 330).
Just goes to show, you don’t have to drive an SUV to be a dick.
But I still maintain that it helps.
Redneck- HA…my thoughts exactly.
Unless the driver of the car is drunk. Then it’s a hit every time. >:(
Whatever I guess. …But I never skidded out in my Ford Ranger or either mini-van, but 3 times in the little Saturn… thanks but I’ll go by my own experience over some survey or whatever or some idiot liberal elitist Prius-owning know-it-all wishes to foist on me. If you’all want to a roller skate you’all have at it. I’m saving up for a Tundra or maybe a F150. You know, a real vehicle where I can keep my guns and bibles.
But I’m not bitter or anything.
I don’t know about you and your cars, but I can make 90 degree corners at over 30 mph in my beat up old Japanese car. Admitedly it’s a Mazda, but just an MX-3. Not an actual sports car or anything. I seriously doubt you could do that in an SUV. It would be pretty hilarious to see you try. As long as there was no traffic at least.
And seriously, if you think an F150 has better handling than a Saturn you clearly need to learn to drive. I’ve driven both, and it’s not even remotely close to being a contest. Also, for the record, from my experience Saturns have bad handling compared to other cars around the same size.
Oh come on, just because I have to do a three-point turn to flip a bitch on any surface street doesn’t mean Saturns have bad handling!
Clearly, you not an engineer, or just not an engineer that knows anything about wrecks. Would a driver have a higher chance of living if they crash a Prius into tractor trailer, or if they crash a Ford Expedition? Assuming they don’t die on impact (worked a great wreck down in Griffin, Georgia), then they have to worry about the electricity from the battery and whether or not the wires aren’t damaged. Now had they been in an SUV, they would’ve been higher off the ground, and have more room between them and the truck.
Ah, Griffin, GA… glad I got out of escaped that dump of a village.
I read a great book called High and Mighty: SUVs — The World’s Most Dangerous Vehicles and How They Got That Way a few years back. It’s a great read for anyone really, especially those that want to believe their families will be safer in an SUV. Let’s say that someone in an SUV T-boned me in my sedan. The top two most likely injuries I would sustain would be brain injuries and pelvis bone breakage. Better yet, if an SUV were to hit me head on and didn’t have a simple horizontal bar under the front bumper, it would drive OVER the hood of my car and pretty much take off my feet for me, or permanently demolish them. Whatever, I don’t really enjoy walking that much… or standing… Just park an SUV and a smaller sedan nose to nose and you’ll be able to see what I’m saying.
Perhaps the Brit that made this graph realizes the problem with childhood obesity in this country and I would like to bet that there are plenty of children that DON’T fit in one single car seat.
I’m going to drive my family around in an actual tank so my family will be better protected from the family with an SUV. Is that the way we should be thinking? Isn’t that the same mentality which started the arms race? You forgot to mention that people who drive SUV’s don’t: know how to rent a truck to carry a lot of stuff when needed, care about the environment, care about the other family in the smaller car they just bulldozed.
They also are (demonstrably) more likely to be involved in a wreck in the first place.
Yes, I always bring my questions about people’s motives to an “engineer to fancies himself [?] as an (sic) accident reconstructionist.” What does your comment even mean? Try again.
So true except for people who have two kids and are tall.
I’m 6′2 while in high school and my sister is 5′11.
My dad and mom are both 6′0. We barely fit into a chevy malibu, which is a very big car. We have an SUV.
oh yeah.
AND CARRYING A LOT OF SHIT
Don’t ya love the assumption that since you drive an SUV you must be a kill-the-planet screw-the-other-guy soccer mom who will run over anyone who even thinks about pulling in front of you? Personally, I’ve seen more asshole drivers in sedans than anything else.
If you’re more than an inch or two over 6′, chances are good you won’t fit into any sedan. It’s more a matter of leg to torso ratio than anything. I’m long in the torso and can’t sit upright in my Mom’s Malibu. I drive an SUV so I can actually sit up in my seat. While I do use it to move lots of stuff on occasion, I use it to move ME daily. Can’t do that in any sedan I’ve seen lately.
i think this is hilarious all this nonsense about being over 6 ft and having to own an suv…. i work with a guy that is well over 6′3″ and he drives around in a toyota corolla man, im 5′11″ and i drive a Nissan hard body, i mean cmon there are no uses for these large suvs whatsoever. you bought into a fad, suvs are like parachute pants, they are ridiculous, ignorant, fat and stupid looking. They are only gonna die out after a couple years anyhow, im so sick and tired of these yuppie soccer moms that think they need to drive around in a lincoln navigator with one damn kid, now mind you i don’t like the prius drivers either cause they are rich snobby bastards that drive 15 under the speed limit all the time, but where is the neutrality in the arms race, why cant people just drive vehicles that will suit their needs, not something that is meant for dirt but the most offroading you will do is go through a bumpey non-paved alleyway, and the most shit you will put in it is maybe a flatscreen tv for your spoiled little mini-yuppies bedroom.
Umm… I realize there’s a time and a place for larger vehicles – I won’t argue with you there.
But fyi – my boyfriend and my brothers (all over 6′5″) all have more than enough leg and head room in my little smart car.
Ummmm…my husband’s 6′9″. We drive a Kia Rio. Our last car was also a Rio. A tractor trailer took us out at 65mph, the car rolled several times, and all five of us (my husband, me, our three kids, all in car seats) walked away. Reasons to own an SUV? Size? Safety? Yeah, whatever.
Different cars for different folks, for different reasons. My mom’s doctor is 6′5″ tall, and he drives a Beetle, because (direct quote) “I can pull it out of a ditch myself, if I ever have to.” With the seat all the way back, and down, a Beetle has a surprising amount of head-room. And, it can survive a trip across the salt flats of Botswana.
(See Top Gear – BBC car show – for that one.)
and it can easily hold camping supplies for two for three weeks.
So, when your mom operates, does he use gloves?
You mean when he operated on my mom? Yes. He’s her dermatologist, and he definitely washed and wore gloves when removing the moles on her back.
I don’t think Dr. S. ever actually had to pull his car out of a ditch, but that’s why he said he drove such a little car.
I’ve heard that the Beetle is a very workable car for tall and big-and-tall (as in hefty) people.
My car barely comes up to my belly button. You don’t have to drive a gargantue-beast to find a car with leg room.
There are legitimate reasons to drive an SUV. Just flat out liking them better is one of them. A disturbingly high percentage of them are driven around basically empty by people who think they’re safer, though. It’s pretty sad.
Endless piffle. I’m 6′ 3″ and I can drive my sister’s Mini Cooper or sit in the back just fine. Too many people want their cars to be like their La-Z-Boy recliners.
My boyfriend is 6′5″ and fits in my little Saturn just fine, front or back seat. The car itself handles well, still gets about 35-40 mpg, and runs like a champ despite me rolling over 206k miles last week. If you *really* need the legroom, just get a classic car from the 70’s. You won’t even need to get an emissions test since they’re all classics!
I’m 6′3″ and the only car I’ve ever that I really don’t fit in was an 80’s Ford Fiesta. I have never seen a car that will not fit, now, maybe I’m more flexible than most, but I doubt it.
This isn’t a popular or PC thing to say, but I don’t think height has as much to do with comfort in a car as much as weight. There’s a big difference in 6′0″ 175 lbs. and 6′0″ 300 lbs. I’m 6′0″ and fit into my eclipse just fine. My friend who is 5′7″ and much heavier refuses to ride in my car because of how uncomfortable it is. If someone says they can’t fit in a sedan, I’m more likely to believe it’s due to weight than height.
I’m 6′0″ and almost 300 pounds and I drive a little Mazda. I have no trouble fitting into the back seat of any of my friends’ cars either.
This is completely true. My husband is 6′2″ 190lbs and fits into our Civic (hybrid!) just fine. My grandmother is probably about 5′7″ 250lbs and can barely get in it and can’t buckle the seatbelt. I have a larger friend who has the same problem, and she is definitely not nearly as tall as my husband.
Im 6′6″ and the only time i need anything larger then my 1998 Nissan Sentra is for my trips for Virginia to Maine
I’m 6′4″… I’ve been back-seated in so many hatch-backs that my legs automatically spread upon entering a car…
Deal with it.
A Malibu is “very big”?? Are you on crack?
It’s a big car.
The Chevy sedans do seem big if you try to park them in the city, but on the inside, I’d hardly call them big. Certainly adequate, but hardly cavernous. And my new ‘09 ride, although a very nice car, sure feels a heck of a lot smaller on the inside than my ‘03 Chevy was.
I’ve had friends who are 6′3+ and drive Corollas, and they look *ridiculous* riding down the street.
One problem is (human) body shape. Mine is average at 6′, 200 lbs., but my father – who is 3 inches taller than me and maybe 210 lbs. – actually has *shorter* legs than I do, and a much longer torso. Though he, too, drives a sedan – not an SUV – he can only really fit in a full size American sedan, and even that is a tight squeeze for him! (Meanwhile, I, with longer legs, find leg room more of a problem than head room.)
As for safety… provided they are driven properly and sanely, SUV’s, pickups, and full-size sedans are safer than econoboxes for highway driving among a lot of large trucks. Because you’re risking being hit by a horrible driver at high speeds, a larger vehicle makes a lot more sense.
I would also point out that some of the SUV drivers might only be able to afford one car, but might do things like cart around their child and 8 of their friends to ice cream after soccer practice, in which case, an SUV is a useful tool (You can’t legally have them bouncing around in a station wagon’s cargo area, unless it has seats, which I’d guess not all of them do)
I agree. To me, a ‘big car’ is my dad’s 74 Cadillac sedan Deville. THAT made for one hell of an everyday car.
You also forgot to add “people that happen to want one and can afford to buy it!”
Or “People that happen to want one, can’t afford them, but the bank gave them the money anyways”.
Yay for destroying both the environment AND the economy with one single poor decision!
SUV’s are NOT destroying the planet. Sheesh. What caused the last ice age to end? SUV’s? Coal plants? Caveman campfires? Or maybe the earth just warms and cools with it’s own rythms, and politicians are trying their best to take advantage of people’s credulous nature to fool them into thinking that they need to “do something” to prevent the earth from turning to ice (like in the 70’s and ’80’s) or turning into a fireball (like now)?
Even leaving aside the whole climate change debate, the simple act of burning fossil fuels creates pollutants. Burning less gasoline produces less pollution.
Never mind the whole concept of having to drop fifty bucks for gas to go visit Grandma an hour’s drive away, when a more sensible car would burn maybe 20 or 25 bucks worth. When you step back and think about it, it’s absurd to just throw money away like that.
I don’t own a car, I live downtown and can cycle or take the subway everywhere. It sure was fun gloating last year at suburbanites when gas prices were so high, spending less in a month than they did in a single day. Never mind no car payments, insurance, maintenance, parking, whatever.
Kudos to you for making the eco friendly choice. Not all of us have those options though. Some of us live in rural areas or (in my case) cities that have little to no public transit. The best we can do is buy fuel efficient cars and try to carpool when we can.
And what type of vehicle are you seeing that burns through $20-25 in gas for an hour’s drive? Let alone $50???
True about not having the option. When I lived in Cambridge Mass. I sold the car I drove to get there because public transportation was so readily available. Meanwhile, back in Texas, if you’re in a suburb you’re pretty much car-dependent. Even in some parts of the city because the buses (the only form of public transportation) run so infrequently and the routes are very cumbersome.
So did we just happen to build cities in areas that are covered in smog? It’s about more than climate change, which is incidentally not really a subject for debate anymore among educated individuals who know what the heck they are talking about (here I mean scientists, people with advanced degrees in this area, not just everyone who did two semesters at community college).
My favorite is when I’m driving behind someone in their SUV or truck and it starts to rain and they slam on their brakes like “AHHH WATER!!” (no there is no one in front of them). Why spend tens of thousands of dollars on a vehicle you’re afraid to drive???
This is the best graph I’ve seen in a while. So accurate too. No, SUVs are NOT safer on public roads, your family and that of the car you hit are NOT less prone to injury because of one. You guzzle gas, you drive like an asshole and you’ve never off-roaded in your life. 90% of SUVs couldn’t handle offroad conditions.
True. The real offroaders I know buy a Jeep Rubicon or a 4×4 pickup that they then modify heavily. They like solid front axles.
I always laugh at the mothers driving their SUVs or mini-vans to work (with no one else in the vehicle with them!), claiming that they need that vehicle for the kids, when the kids are in the vehicle all of ten minutes a week.
“What if we go on vacation?” Rent a van. Rent a Winnebago. Whatever.
Friend of mine has twins, and twins come with double the needs – two car seats, a double stroller, two diaper bags, etc.; as they get older, two sets of drinks and snacks and toys. She drives around in a Toyota Matrix and has no problems fitting the whole family plus all their stuff into it. And she’s never had an accident.
It’s been my unfortunate experience that women in mini-vans and SUVs invariably think they’re a) entitled to the road (“someone please think of the children!”) and b) impervious. They drive like idiots.
Wait until the “unexpected” child comes along…that Matrix, while fitting the needs now, will quickly be on the used car lot of the nearest Toyota dealership while she rambles down the road in a sweet new Toyota Sienna minivan. Anyone driving any vehicle can drive sanely, have no accidents and react with appropriate responses. So, put down the coffee, put down the cell phone (stop texting!) and place both hands on the wheel. Ladies: stop putting your makeup on in the car. I don’t want to call 911 because your mascara brush stabbed you in the eye when you rear ended me.
I don’t think that your own hypothetical inability to effectively control your reproduction is a good justification for anticipatorily purchasing a vehicle that you don’t plan to actually ever need. Just a thought. I mean, hypothetically, is there any situation before the end of my current car’s lifespan where I would ever conceivably wish that I owned a larger vehicle? Yes. Does that mean I should have gotten one? No, because every day until that hypothetical and as yet, non-occurring, date, I will be wishing I had not purchased it.
I agree.
Oh…and that thing about renting the vehicle you need for vacation? ABSOLUTELY. My parents did it when I was a kid, it saves the mileage and wear and tear on the “family” car.
I’d just like to say that that ten minutes of five or so kids in a car is worth having the minvan, especially if it is a regular trip. If you’ve ever tried to transport kids, especially when they’re not all yours, you know that it’s a trial in the best of times. That same scenario in a smaller car is a terrible thing to contemplate.
lol the roads where i live are mostly rough except for th city, and my old teacher drive a big SUV type car even though she really doesnt need it, the roads are not that bad
I’d like to say that there should be another slice.. I’m 6′4″ and 300lbs, and I had to upgrade to an SUV just to have enough room to be comfortable…. plus it feels like I’m getting off the ground when I get out of regular car.
I am the same height as you, 15 lbs heavier, and you’re full of it.
Here’s a small list of vehicles that I’m comfy in:
1. VW Jetta — has a telescopic wheel, makes for a more comfortable drive
2. VW Rabbit/Golf — same deal as above
3. VW Beetle — ditto
4. Ford Focus — height adjustable drivers’ seat
And that’s just touching the surface.
I have several large uncles (6′3″ or taller) who have comfortably driven Honda Accords and Buick sedans.
My sister is 6′2″ and loved her Buick station wagon. She fit comfortably in it with five of her tall friends, and probably got better mileage than most newer SUVS, despite the fact that the station wagon was over ten years old.
I agree. Suvs are Evil.
More than anything it’s about the image the SUV presents, not about the owners’ stupidity or misguided attempts at being a “good mother” (i.e., thinking it’s a safer vehicle, thinking she needs more space for those two kids, etc.). Having an SUV says something about the person driving it, and that’s the appeal of owning one – it SEEMS sportier, safer, more luxurious, more spacious, more versatile, whatever – so everyone who’s arguing whether or not they’re actually safer is completely missing the point, and so is the person who made the graph. Especially when you consider how many people drive SUVs now… the idea that only soccer moms drive SUVs is ridiculous.
It’s exactly the same as driving a sporty convertible. Is it actually faster? In most cases, probably not, depending on how you drive it. And it won’t make you younger or “cooler,” but that’s the image you’re buying when you buy the car.
What I can’t get over are the people with SUVs or Trucks, which obviously have a very good suspension, go over speedbumps at 0.5 mph.
Hello! You’re vehicle is made for bumps!!!
Just because a vehicle’s suspension is designed to carry heavy loads and go over bumps at low speeds doesn’t mean it’s comfortable (truck suspension and truck-like SUV suspension rarely is). Most soccer mom SUVs have street-tuned car-like suspension anyway; only modified off-roaders can really do bumps repeatably at high speed.
capitalist bitches
Larger section: because they want to piss off people who complain about (read: can’t afford) SUVs.
I find minivans to be more comfortable, both for carrying people/stuff and getting said people/stuff in and out. Too bad they have such an image problem.
SUVs aren’t meant to go off road, ATVs are.
You’re all retarded. My mum has a minivan to accompany her family of four, along with my half sister who comes with us in most things. OMGno need for a minivan right?
Today i went out to The iceskating arena, common thing. My mom drove. I went, and my twin.
Aleo my first friend who needed a ride
and my second friend who needed a ride
and my third friend who needed a ride
and my fourth
and we live in a state where not wearing a seatbelt is illegal
soccer moms get their suv sterotype from lugging The team home for after-Game parties :3
Kthxbai
Uh, the “soccer mom” stereotype began in the early ’90’s with women who drove minivans to cart their athletic children, their friends, and their equipment around in the suburbs, where the athletic venues were not within walking distance of their homes.
Which is exactly the scenario you’ve just described.
The SUVs came into the picture when everyone began to own minivans, chasing the image of it being a “family friendly” vehicle for those reasons. Before minivans it was station wagons, although the term “soccer mom” didn’t exist yet. You only believe the minivan a necessary accessory because you’ve been conditioned by American culture and advertising to believe that it’s necessary based on the criteria you’ve just described.
Before you think I’m only being argumentative, I come from a family of seven, and we have always owned a van with seven seats and seatbelts. We needed that many seats because we had that many members of the family to haul around on outings (e.g., church, museums, vacations, etc.), not that many friends or enough sports equipment to make it necessary.
…but isn’t that exactly what I said? …
Not really.
I would argue that part of the problem is that modern Americans abhor walking anywhere. When my friends and I wanted to go to the pool or the ice rink, we could walk there or ride our bikes. Now, many suburban Americans have purposely chosen to live in areas where that is not realistically possible. Either that, or the kids are so lazy that a mile bike ride is out of the question. I don’t know. But I do think that part of the problem is that moms drive their kids everywhere. Also, why don’t the other kids have parents that can drive? When I was a kid and we did have to get a ride somewhere, we could get more than one parent to drive. It’s not that big of a deal.
K, douchebag
problem is I live in Miami
and biking is out of the question considering the streets I have to cross
And you’re complaining about my mum driving me everywhere, then complaining about their parents not driving them? We carpooled them. That saves gas.
you’re a frikkin ball of hypocrisy.
Is Miami a suburb? I was unaware.
It has suburbs, yes. I live in them. And there’s many, many streets that biking across is not an option. Especially not for four kids, who live ten miles away from their desired places to be, thus requiring several hours and many dangerous incidents to BIKE to somewhere.
I wasn’t questioning the safety of biking in your community. Where I live we have bike lanes in most roads, but people drive their SUVs in them as though they’re right-turn lanes. I wouldn’t bike anywhere, regardless of how “protected” bikers are by our laws. A law won’t prevent you from being killed.
I was merely questioning the idea that Miami itself is a suburb, which was implied by the wording in your comment.
Yes, I know, I was just rantin in general. I’d love to be able to bike to places but I appreciate the covenience of my mum’s Sienna considering I can’t.
Most large cities have suburbs though. I don’t think I’ve ever even been to downtown Miami, and I’ve only gone to South Beach and Miami Beach a couple of times :’D We have suburbs, a rather large one in fact. Kendall, Broward, many other areas. :3
THIS IS MY POINT. we live in places where you are ten miles from anywhere anyone would want to be. why does everyone have to move to the outer suburbs? for the lawns?
Yup, because all of the US is just covered in cities, except for those places where annoying people still like trees. Darn them!
Um, because most mothers are more concerned with safe neighborhoods and being close to schools, not the local ice-rink? How dare we not prioritize our children’s POSSIBLE hobbies over where we can afford, where our families are, and where our children will definitely go to school?
You’re ridiculous and choose horrible standards for where you live.
Noo, there are several points in there.
1. Parents feel the need to drive their kids to the corner park.
2. People live in places where there is no corner park because everything is a gagillion miles from everything else.
3. When it is necessary for children to get a ride (which I acknowledge happens sometimes), it would save gas if more than one parent drove a reasonably sized car around and then also drove that reasonably sized car to work 5 days a week. I don’t see why it is necessary to buy a land yacht just because your kids like to go to the ice skating rink once a week. You will be wasting a lot of gas when you are going to work and running your regular errands. Most of the time I see people in these large vehicles, they are transporting fewer than the 4 people that a regular sedan can comfortably accommodate.
Let’s see.
Are you going to rent an suv every single ‘once a week’ your kids and their friends go ice skating or have a party, or go on vacations if you travel a lot, or anything of the sort? No, you’re gonna buy a car that fits your life style. And for us and many many people out there, that’s an SUV. Especially with twins. Twice the kids = twice the events = twice the occurences of needing to pick friends up.
Considering the state of my mother’s minivan after a week of my two younger brothers riding in it, you really can’t.
It’s so wonderful that we live in a free country where we’re all able to purchase the car of our choice.
without first getting the approval of some opinionated snit on graphjam.
don’t think that was the point, but congrats on taking it personally enough to sound insulted.
It’s so wonderful we live in a country where personal responsibility for the greater good is considered completely unnecessary.
I hate SUV’s
Ugh, tell me about it. I find it most annoying when those things block your view of the road. “Is anyone coming?” “How the heck am I supposed to know? This friggin’ SUV is in the way!”
Exactly! For some reason they always decide to park right on the bend outside my driveway. I live on a busy road, too. You can see fine when there are normal cars parked, but SUVs make it impossible to see if anything is coming at you. Thanks guys.
I`m can`t help smiling, when I read the comments of the
“OMG, but I so need this car because I have a family of 3!”
I live in the country and drive a small Ford, in the forest, on vacation, AND have a big family….and “suprisingly”: it works fine!
You DO know, that even the small cars have air-conditioning today and seats you can adjust?
Sure: It`s great to drive a BIG car, so the one BEHIND you can see the road anymore. Great. Go on.
The NHSAA has per 100,000 fatality rates on every make of vehicle. SUVs are comfortably in the middle. They do okay on collisions, its true, but they also get in a lot more collisions because of poor maneuverability. Yes, you can avoid collisions by swerving and/or braking. The thing that kills SUVs (and pickups) in terms of fatality is their propensity for rolling. All that extra impact survivability gets eaten up by the deaths caused when you, Billy, Susie, and Rex the dog, get shaken up like a maraca. Of course, I’m sure everyone on this board drives their road toad very sensibly. They would never ride up on my ass in their 2 ton, 100 foot braking distance, vehicle. So then I have to slow down on them.
The only people I can think of who need huge cars are A) people who go off-roading frequently, B) people with more than four children, (and even then, a minivan is more practical) C) men who feel the need to compensate, and D) upright bass players.
i despise soccer mums and their SUV’s
These argument threads are great guys! Keep up the good work!
Oops. *tosses a comma up behind ‘great’*
Might I politely point out that SUV’s aren’t intended for off-roading/4×4ing. . . They’re Super Utility Vehicles, which really says it all. Most of them don’t even have 4×4, and with the standard rear-wheel drive will get just as stuck as a normal car. . . Its the people in the lifted trucks and SUVs with big mudder tires and a suspension lift that never go off road that are silly. . .
“Sport” Utility Vehicles, actually. Which implies that they’ll assist you in carting around your “sporting” equipment, i.e., surfboards or canoes or skis.
But they aren’t designed for that sort of behavior, you’re right. For example, the Element has a 650-lb weight limit, which roughly translates to four small adult men, without any equipment.
soccer moms are killing the planet!!!11!! Help STOP global warming!!!
whether or not there is such thing as global warming, i return to the point that burning fossil fuels does pollute the atmosphere. and that is a FACT. whether or not its heating up the atmosphere is still debated, but it is a FACT that what we are doing is polluting the planet. Plus, saving gas, and getting more fuel efficient cars is cheaper.
it could also be the mindframe of many American moms; “I’m going to have five million fucking kids, because the world just doesnt have enough people as it is, even though are population has fucking doubled in the past 40 years. Even if i can’t handle the stress or the financial needs.
hey, maybe if we didnt all have so many fucking kids, there would be less unemployed people! oh the humanity! the only thing good that comes from having so many people is probably having a bigger army
Yeah, and our tax dollars not only support the army but care for the soldiers that come out of war with PTSD or just enough shrapnel to not be a functioning being in society. But yeah, your population mention hits home and I cringe when people I know say “I’m going to have/want 3+ kids!”
im one of the green people!!
You left out “men with very small penises.”