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Random lol
THIS IS PBS! Nah…
This graph is random. probably what people actually do at work instead of getting their work done…
someone should do one on ADHD
Atention Deficit Hyperactive Dissorder
ps. I actualy have ADHD and am surfing the internet instead of geting ready for school right now
Pss. my little sister also has ADHD
Psss. my mom actualy has ADD
Pssss. anyone else notice how ADD spells add as in addition or +
Very perceptive Megan. ADD is actually a gift, with a learning disability attached to it. While those of us who suffer from the symptoms of add/adhd have trouble focusing, and are prone to very debilitating lifestyles, we tend to be brilliant thinkers in sometimes multiple areas. Like was said in Good Will Hunting, when we look at numbers, ideas, whatever area we are gifted in, its not like we have to learn, we just know. It just makes sense.Good diet, exercise, lists, and surrounding oneself with patient people who love us help us nurture those thoughts, but mostly we have to remember that its not that ‘they’ cant keep up with us, our crazy little brains just move too fast even for us sometimes. Happy Halloween to all! Youre not alone.
This is totally what my brain looks like at any given moment of the day.
yeah, totally
and i like kittehs too, cudly kittehs, that’s the best thing in the world next to a ice-cold iron pole, cause then you can lick it and…
hmm i think i kinda lost my train of thought here
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
mine too some of the time.
Though c’mon, I actually have ADD, SAD,and Aspergers ^^;
I know)
Same with me ^^
Can I just say that although I have Aspergers Syndrome, I am not emo or a kid *is 31 years old*
Despite that, I love this lol *lol* ^_^
Laughing out loud automatically removes the diagnosis of Asperger’s, I suggest switching to PMDD.
O.o Where the hell do you get your facts about Asperger’s?
Gotta agree, where the hell DID you get your info on Asperger’s? While it is frequently co-morbid with a variety of other psychological conditions, Asperger’s and ADD/ADHD aren’t even the same TYPE of disorder. Both myself and my son have it, and neither of us have ADD, ADHD, nor are either of us emo. Aspies do indeed have a sense of humour, but making light of people that struggle with neurological or psychological disorders is just lame. I imagine I’ll get flamed for this comment, but really, there’s plenty else out there to make fun of, without making people with legitimate health problems the butt of your jokes.
Sorry that the graph-maker is too poor to pay attention, apparently they are also too poor to afford a sense of common respect and decency.
Um, ok, you’re a flame.
Considering he was suggesting a Pre-Menstrual disorder after ‘discounting’ Aspergers, I think we can safely assume he wasn’t being serious.
he googled aspargus syndrome
Prob. the same place my bf’s ex did when she told him he would have to leave his autistic kid at home alone all the time so he didn’t “disease” her.
Having Aspergers doesn’t mean you don’t have a sense of humour :/ If you’d bother to look up how Aspergers affects people who have it, you’d know that
:/
Did a doctor tell you you have Aspergers, or did you look it up on WebMD and decide you have it?
*would’ve spit coffee!*
I’m going to guess, with the statement that both this person and their son have AS, that the son was diagnosed and the psychologist took the parent aside and explained where the son had got his AS from. It happens often enough.
Kelly, if you hang out on the Internet enough, you know they like to make fun of autistic people, especially if they can claim that they are not “really” autistic. The only way to survive this is to understand that they don’t know very much about the topic and are simply following the latest “who to tease” fad. There is the added problem of some people with social phobia self-diagnosing Asperger’s when they don’t actually have it, which complicates the problem.
Rather focus on making sure that son of yours gets the education he deserves, than trying to clean up the Internet. If we can make sure the schools do right by the AS children, it’ll be great progress.
Assburgers?
Seriously, it is fun to make fun of people, period.
That’s how I thought it was spelled when I first heard I had it.
I was diagnosed with it when I was 23 by my psychiatrist at the time. I didn’t just wake up and decide “Oh, I want to have some different about! I know, I think I’ll be someone with Aspergers!” |:/
Besides my younger brother was already diagnosed with it and they saw similar signs to his Aspergers behaviour in the way I behaved so it was suggested to me and my mum that I get diagnosed. Plus, Aspergers is a form of Autism. If you have, you have it all your life. From the day you are born until the day you die. It’s not something you just decide that you have or some disease that goes away with a miracle cure :/ So people out there assuming all this, get your facts right
LOl.nice
You mean burgers come out your ass?
This is me before medicine in the morning.
I like the design around the graph and how the emphasize the main point of the graph.
are you new?
What of it?
Me too! Also, cookies are delicious.
As a step-dad to a young child with ADHD I can say you have to react with laughter when you can or you’ll go bat-shit insane.
Please keep in mind that there is a very not funny flip side to this; the behavioral problems can rip your heart out, there are what seems to be endless sleepless nights, medication nightmares, and battling with exes and school faculty and daycare workers. It’s not fun when you can feel the life being sucked right out of you.
But sometimes you’ll see a graph like this and in a strange odd dark humor way, it helps.
The bright light at the end of the tunnel is that most ADHD kids are quite intelligent and with the right focus and teaching, do very well in life. (a teacher)
This is very true. If someone with ADHD is given structure, they very likely will succeed! (A teacher with ADHD).
Okay, I want this to go HERE!
I am a teacher with ADD. I can’t find a group or support. I think teachers keep it hush-hush. any suggestions?
Check out CHADD.org – they’ve got a good reference for almost anything you’ll need.
True…I have adult-onset ADD, unmedicated at the moment, and I run my own business. Yeah, sometimes my stuff is disorganized, but I support myself and love my job!
I can also attest to my brain looking like this. All the time.
I teach. Do you have ADD?
Ditto RJ. I was one of the first kids on Ritalin, under the care of one of the pioneers of medication research. I’m now in my mid-40s, and I still fight it occasionally, but I’ve turned out rather well, I think.
Be aggressive and proactive…if those others are giving you crap, fight back and go out and find the best people. It is hard, but the results are worth it.
Also, seriously, go find a support group. Sometimes just letting the misery pour out does wonders.
Hang in there, papajon!
Hey thanks for the comment.
I myself, 5 years ago at the age of 13, was diagnosed (by an actual psychiatrist, not Wikipedia) with Asperger which is a form of autism (which in my case is not very extreme, and I’d say I’ve made a pretty good recovery to the point where I seem like a normal 18 year old nowadays.)
The graph, really, I wasn’t trying to say anything political, or debate social issues. Actually I try to keep those views anonymous. Really I just wanted to make a funny graph.
Anyway, thanks for your comment (same goes to everyone else) and thanks for the ratings.
Sweet, a Bodom fan. Rock on fellow aspie \m/ \m/
As one who *was* the kid with ADD (and now an adult with ADD) — I agree! If I didn’t laugh at the crazy that is my life, I’d *go* crazy… okay, crazier, I guess.
One thing that helps, though, is cannabis — it slows down my brain, and allows me to follow my own thoughts, and have time to process them, instead of being overwhelmed by “holy crap my mind is going a million miles an hour — PANIC!”
I may not have much of an attention span, but I’m fairly happy.
ADHD is hard to deal with as a parent – but do your best for your kid and you will be rewarded. My brother had top medical specialists seriously recommending that he be excorcised by a priest at the age of 4 (they didn’t know a lot about ADHD back then – for my brother the key was diet and focusing on his strengths – speaking/acting – to build his self esteem). At age 24 he is a successful, wonderful young man with loads of friends, living overseas, building a successful career as a sales executive for a magazine. Not bad for a ‘possessed’ little boy who used to destroy anything within his reach.
Yep. That’s about right. When “behavioral therapy” and “intervention” and “elimination diets” fail, as they all did for my kids (8 years of try this & try that nonsense!), plain old Ritalin worked just fine. No it didn’t stunt their growth. No they’re not drooling zombies. It allowed them to pay enough attention in class to get decent grades. It allowed them to behave sanely enough to not disrupt their classes. And when it wore off (around 3pm) they were back to their silly, rambunctious selves!
You lost me at “about”
I have to disagree. I think the ability to overcome things like ADD and Aspergers really lies within the person himself. I didn’t get over my little asperger syndrome until AFTER I got off meds and therapy, and I was more determined to get over it.
And more mature. There are studies linking age/maturity to the outgrowth of such learning and sociological disabilities.
There are also studies linking age/maturity to the outgrowth of asthma.
I’m glad you outgrew/overcame it. I was diagnosed with ADD at age 42, after all my kids. Years of “self-medicating” and treatment for other (misdiagnosed) problems later, all the pieces finally fit. Therapies must be tailored to the individual and carefully monitored. My oldest has passed the Hyperactive stage, but is still challenged by everyday situations. One is still absolutely gonzo. And I have a charming “The answer to question fi…Oh look, a bunny!”
Most folks don’t realise that the flip side of ADD/AHDH is an almost scary ability to focus on a chosen subject to the exclusion of all else. If the object of fascination is, say, history homework, then it’s wonderful. If the subject is not so positive, then problems are likely to crop up.
Yes, L.B91, the graph is very funny. (it’s “deficit”)
I think it’s stupid to try to overcome it. It makes much more sense to understand and work with it. The creativity you can get from jumping topic-to-topic in typical ADHD style tends to vanish if you assume it’s pathological and squelch it before you have a chance to learn what it’s all about.
I tried to overcome my autism. I ended up in a mental hospital as a direct result. It’s not a smart idea to try to ignore your weaknesses; you have to work with it, take it into account. Otherwise, you burn out, get depressed, and end up unable to take care of yourself. Better to be the healthiest, happiest, autistic person you can be, than to try to be non-autistic. We’re meant to be ourselves, not someone else, weaknesses and all.
A simple perusal of the DSM IV-TR is indicative or your self-misdiagnosis.
An accurately diagnosed autistic’s symptomology would simply not allow him/her to post in this manner.
DSM IV-TR Diagnostic Criteria for the Pervasive Developmental Disorders is a spectrum of autistic disorders, and to lend credence and credibility to your argument and you should identify yourself upon that spectrum rather than insinuate you have autism without an explanation of the severity. It’s rather disingenuous to post otherwise, considering the millions who live in hope of their children aspiring to your level of functionality.
Call a spade a spade.
Uh, no–I definitely have autism. So say, in any case, three psychologists, a neuropsychiatrist, my case worker, and the US government. Go google “high-functioning autism”, and you should get a good idea of exactly how broad a diagnosis “Autistic Disorder” can be.
I agree with this. I grew up with an older brother who is a high functioning autistic and, while he shuts down when around people in real life, he often posts in forums on the internet. He was diagnosed at about two years old, went to a special school for children with specific developmental and social disorders (Thank God for Berger school in Michigan!) who helped both him and our family learn to cope with his autistm. He’s got a well developed dry sense of humor, and not as withdrawn as many Autistics.
Not everyone with Autism is Rain Man, after all.
I didn’t suggest Rain Man is the norm: I simply pointed out the atypical nature of a high-functioning autistic and the spectrum of symptomology inherent.
As I stressed before, credibility is established by honesty when it comes to psychological disorders.
Read and focus. I initially suggested the breadth of the spectrum citing the DSM IV-TR, if you actually read my post.
This thread is about ADD, not autism, FWIW.
No, you initially said that Crux’s post indicated that he could not possibly fit the criteria for autism, and implied that Crux must have (mis)diagnosed himself. Then you followed up with that whole thing about the spectrum, which to me at least read like you were saying that high-functioning autism doesn’t count, and if someone is high-functioning they should never refer to themselves as autistic. And also, while the graph may be primarily about ADD, it does also mention Asperger’s (which is what I’ve been diagnosed with, and yes, it was by a doctor), so I don’t see why discussion of autism should be disallowed. You’re the one who made such a big deal about it, anyway.
Let me rephrase that-
It’s a good idea to try and overcome the NEGATIVES.
The positives, you should indeed cherish. Whether it’s being better focused, being less of a prick, or anything of the kind.
Ooh, something shiny.
Wait, what?
Shiny, where?
i have add and when i was at high shool i was poor and i spent all my lunchtime looking for droped money
Q: How many kids with ADD does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Wanna go ride bikes?
asshole
sense of humor fail? I have ADD and find that joke amusing
Genius.
Agreed. Best one in a while.
I’m going to go a step (or two) further and say this is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen on graphjam.
i don’t know if its the funniest EVER (I like to keep my options open) but DEFINITELY the funniest in a long damned time!
As a kid with Aspergers I must say I don’t have ADD but this is pretty funny!
Hehehe… Ass burger….lol
I don’t have ADD I’m just misunder- OOH A SQUIRREL!
‘As a kid with Aspergers’
Fifty bucks says you’re just socially inept.
Hahahahaha oh man this graph is awesome.
I’m getting so goddam tired of every stupid tween I know using Assburgers or ADD as an excuse to duck responsibility for making a mess of their lives, but at least I’m not the only one who thinks this way.
God, and they wanted to “diagnose” me with Assburgers when I was little. Fsck you, I got handed down some faulty social interaction genes and I have an IQ above room temperature. That != Assburgers.
You are def. not the only one who thinks this way. I think it’s even worse when parents are in agreement that their kids have Assburgers because then they let the little sh!ts get away with murder, too.
Actually holding them responsible for their actions will often work, rather than being afraid you might be harming them by acting like a responsible parent.
I’m 17 and I have asperger’s, but im not treated special or anything. People at school either don’t know I have it or don’t know what it is, so not like it matters. Sometimes I wonder if I’m different at all, considering I’m an above average student anyway.
Then chances are you don’t have Assburgers, you have an sometimes unfortunate collection of personality traits that can make life difficult for you at times.
You clearly have the right attitude about it, though, so like you said: it doesn’t matter. Whatever personality traits might be giving you trouble, it’s nobody’s business but yours how to beat them the hell into submission if that’s what you need to do.
you need to get over yourself. you can’t diagnose someone via one post on the internet, nor can you say “chances are” about a situation you have 0 real knowledge of.
Assburgers? If you’re going to try to sound intelligent, how about you get the name of the disorder right, especially when it was spelled correctly in the post you were responding to :/
Worse yet; the parents are just as happy, if not happier than the kids are to receive a diagnosis of Assburgers, because it means that anything their kid does wrong is not their fault.
Remember, we live in the post-personal-responsibility age, guys. Nothing is anyone’s fault anymore.
You evidently have no idea what it’s like for most with AS. They are watched even more closely than typical kids–over-disciplined, for the most part. Some spend twenty or more hours in therapy per day, and the rest of it having their behavior closely monitored and tracked with sticker charts. Others are simply drugged out of their skulls with drugs usually used for schizophrenia.
It’s not just social ineptness. For some, social clumsiness is their mildest trait. It’s also attachment to routines, the way your life can get completely turned upside down if something unexpected (say, a surprise birthday party) happens. It’s the way you get obsessed with specialized subjects. It’s the way your senses are turned way up or way down, so a T-shirt feels like sandpaper or a dripping faucet sounds like explosions in your head, while you might completely fail to notice that you’ve just hurt yourself because your body didn’t process the pain properly…
Most AS kids are very well behaved if they aren’t overwhelmed (usually by the aforementioned sensory overload); they tend to be rule freaks, in fact–the tattletale of the class will often have AS (not knowing that it is not polite to tell on people, he trusts the concrete rules posted on the wall of the classroom). AS teenagers are much less likely to do drugs, have risky sex, or break curfew–probably because they tend to be in their rooms, gathering information on everything from Pokemon to relativity theory.
These aren’t “little brats”; they’re kids with autism. They benefit from a consistent environment more than most kids do–thanks to their love for order and sameness–but harsh discipline won’t solve anything for most of them, especially since many of their problems require that you first teach them what they are doing wrong and how to fix the problem.
Sorry–”twenty or more hours in therapy per week”. Obviously.
-hug- thank you. i know there are misdiagnosed cases out there and such, which is a huge problem, but it seems to me on this thread that the vast majority has gone too far.
“…gathering information on everything from Pokemon to relativity theory.”
LOL, oh man, you had to bring up Pokemon. I mentioned a few posts up that I’ve got an Autistic brother, and Pokemon was one of his little ‘obsessions’ for a long time. I think the “Rock-paper-scissors’ method behind them appealed to him: Water types are strong against fire, fire is strong against grass, grass is strong against water. He also would spend hours arranging his cards into numerical order and then by edition. However, when they introduced something like a hundred new ones he completely lost interest.
Yes, there are a lot of misdiagnosed and self-diagnosed cases and they piss me right the f!ck off – it’s not an ‘excuse’ and it’s not an easy life. People need to take responsibility for themselves, and because of all the people mis- and self-diagnosing the people with the real problems aren’t getting the help they need.
LOL Everything you just said sounds like me but I am *only* bi-polar and ADD.
I organise things by colour (like crayons, beads, string, paper) I organise things by height, like my books, or collectables. When Payless/Thrifty got bought out by Rite Aide it took me 4 years before I could shop there again. But in other areas I am a disaster area. Like my room looks like a craft store exploded.
I don’t know anything about Asperger’s but I do know that a lot of these psychiatric disorders have things in common.
And I lol’d at the graph.
Not everyone can be as cool as you. Fifty bucks says you sit on the sidelines of life, judging others while never actually participating due to your own fear of not measuring up.
You’re a moron. Fifty more bucks says you fail to realize that the poster you’re replying to is likely a good bit older than the tweens you usually hear yapping about Assburgers and has the experience to tell the difference between that and a kid who’s looking for an excuse to act like an asstart.
“Sidelines of life” lol. Yet another fifty bucks says you’re yet another teenager.
Fifty bucks says all of you jerks who get on here to talk trash and treat each other like sh!t are just maladjusted idiots who don’t have the guts to talk to people like that in real life, so you live out your fantasies in online forums where everybody is alone, no one can gang up on you and kick your ass for watching too much House and thinking you can pull off the same witty jerkiness and come out with people loving you for it.
Newsflash: talking trash to people online doesn’t make you cool, just a loser, and you aren’t witty or funny or smart or clever. Just stop. For real. Go find a squirrel to shoot with your BB gun or scream to death thrash metal or whatever maladjusted people used to do to get their teenage angst out before the internet was around.
/rant
I am tempted to just copy and paste your reply, but you probably wouldn’t read it anyway.
Good one, but a simple
TL;DR
YHBT
would have sufficed.
Remember, kids, internet is serious business.
meh… i’ve been diagnosed with Non-verbal learning disorder, ADD, extreme social anxiety disorders, clinical depression… meh, sometimes assburgers, there IS something wrong. if i miss my pills, then i could easily alienate people just by being A- unable to control myself, at least, as close as one can be to being completely out of control, B- become EXTREMELY depressed or frustrated, or C- feel afraid as hell of any crowd i come across, be it on a street, in a party, etc, because i have NO IDEA how to deal with people. sometimes, it’s social ineptitude, people looking for a reason they’re not to blame for a stupid mistake, and other times, there will be someone with a real, genuine problem. there’s no reason to assume EVERYONE is self-diagnosed, man, because you can’t know that about everyone. and dude, don’t act like you can un-diagnose other people through the INTERNET, with ONE post to go on. that’s just asinine. by the way, when i took my 10 hours in one day testing session, i missed 85% of the social cues, and i’ve been around mostly healthy people all my life. social ineptitude? i kind of wish it was the case.
I regret never trying ritalin in my “trying things” phase. I hear it’s fun when taken recreationally.
If you do have ADD, then it is not “fun”. Technically stimulants that treat ADD and ADHD are legalized speed. Therefore, highly addictive. People misusing the drugs used to treat disorders results in those treatments becoming harder to get and potentially impossible to get. I hate when people have this lacksidasical attitude about the medication I need to function.
You forgot to add that it doesn’t give a high to an ADHD/ADD kid.
If you’re REALLY diagnosed, then you know, you actually calm the hell down when you have your stimulant
I have ADD, and I’m *really* sensitive to stimulants — to the point where I can’t have caffeine or chocolate in *any* amount — I was on Ritalin & similar meds through my childhood, and I remember being constantly “on edge” and never being able to fucking *sleep*, but I could *focus* and get the work done! I’m tempted to go back on, and figure out just how much I can tolerate before the side effects get to that point, you know, so I can like, focus, and be productive, but *not* be all super-bitch-queen.
They DO make ADD medications that aren’t stimulants, like Strattera. Maybe that would be something you could try.
Turns me into a zombie. I just sit there staring into space when I’m on Ritalin. Legalized speed? More like legalized brakes.
Kids who are sick of taking it are selling it on college campuses as a ’study aid.’ It should be rather telling that the ones who don’t want it are the ones who are allegedly supposed to be on it, and they seem to be doing all right without.
(The extra cash can’t hurt.)
good graph
hey c’mon man! i have adhd! I made a graph here! I dont doodle like this! Cmon…. this is insulting! Not everyone with ADD is like this…
No, but I am! I’ve still got a few of my notebooks from school daze, and all my notes are completely covered in doodles. So were my tests, much to my teachers’ chagrin.
I agree with a different daniel. I am totally that way.
My Dr has talked me into trying the non-meds route and it is sooo not working! I am a working mom and all my notes have doodles, especially the ones from all day seminars! UGH!
if you doodle it doesnt mean you have add…doodling is pretty normal…add hurts…its not just not wanting to take notes and listen its litteraly when you try to focus on one thing you cant…ever. No matter how hard you try to fight it, the lack of dopamine in the brain that people with add have keeps them from being able to focus on one thing ever unless they take meds. They can however focus on more then one thing which is why 80% of all entertainers and inventers have REAL add/adhd. because they dont think linear, they think outside the box. When i dont take my meds, i try to focus in class but get cofused by what the teacher is writing even though i know i should understand it. I also almost always get introuble from the more strict teachers
…and my notes, and my essays, and…
Yeah, I’d turn in these elaborate pieces of artwork, with the actual assignment in the margins. Teachers hated me.
What does doodling have to do with ADD/ADHD? I have always doodled all over notebooks and in margins of papers, in school and elsewhere, and I don’t have ADD/ADHD.
This graph is decidedly funny, though, even if it is a tad stereotyped. What can you laugh at if you can’t laugh at yourself?
Doodling has to do with ADHD/ADD what daydreaming has to do with ‘not paying attention’.
It’s just a part of it, sugar, even if ‘normal’ people do it, ADHD/ADD kids can do it by 10 times.
And yes, that means they have some INCREDIBLE stamina.;)
doodling has nothing to do wihht add/adhd…I have it, I never doodle even when im off my meds. I was also officially tested for a lack of dopamine in my brain, so dont say that i dont have it. Add is when you cant focus on one thing, but you can focus on multiple things at once. “Normal” people have a certain amount of dopamine that allows them to focus on one thing and one thing only at a time. Please get your facts straight. Doodling is the same as daydreaming. its also a common sign that someone has been misdiagnosed when they say the think they have add because they doodle allot. I have add, when i try to pay attention in class without my meds, i get confused even if its simple because while im taking notes and listening, im also thinking of what class i have next, whats for lunch, what time it is, and many other things ALL AT ONCE not on thought at a time, but all at once. I also forget important things over short periods of time like if my mom were to tell me that someone else was picking me up this afternoon because im thinking of to many things at once throughout the day. I also have this memory loss with my meds as well occasionaly. ADD/ADHD is a highly misunderstood disorder and should be taken seriously by everyone, which it is obviously not based on alot of these comments. PS. 80% of all entertainers and inventors have REAL ADD/ADHD so suck it!
okay 1- i have been diagnosed with ADD
2- the brain is never focused on just one thing at a time, it’s called the subconscious, bud. just because you’re completing an activity doesn’t mean you can’t be thinking about something else, even if you’re a normal human being.
of course, i don’t really know that well, i’ve always been that way, having ADD and all so… idk what it’s like for “normal” people O.o
Correction: Doodling has nothing to do with YOUR manifestation of ADD/ADHD. Check out “You mean I’m not lazy, stupid, or crazy?” by Kate Kelly and Peggy Ramundo – it’s got some excellent descriptions of common personality types who have ADD. They’re fairly distinct, and if you’re one of those types, the other types might seem a little foreign to you, and almost might not seem like “real” ADD – but just because it isn’t your experience doesn’t mean it’s not legitimate.
Almost everyone with ADD/ADHD develops some way to help them focus. Some people listen to loud music when they’re studying because as distracting as another person might find that to be, those people find it actually helps them concentrate. I used to doodle as a kid, but once I had a computer, I played games like solitaire and snood, and I listened better. Keeping one part of my mind constantly and actively engaged with the game kept the rest of my mind awake and alert, so I could better concentrate on what was being said in class. I also tried retyping my notes from other classes during class, but that was a little more distracting. That’s not me being bored in class and using it as an excuse, that’s me keeping note of how many times I caught my attention wandering in a class period, how many points I missed in class when comparing my notes to a classmate’s, etc when I did and did not use computer games.
As I was only diagnosed with ADD a few years ago before I got into vet school (after most of my schooling was over) it almost made me wish I’d known I’d had it when I was younger. Then I realized that having ADD and not knowing about it just made me try 10 times harder to get everything right, and made me the person I am today, who doesn’t give up, who takes responsibility for her actions, and who follows through on what she says she’ll do, no matter what it takes. I wouldn’t have wanted the social stigma of growing up with ADD (I don’t have Asperger’s as far as I know, I’m just socially clueless); trying to fit in for me was hard enough without knowing about it.
Maybe you made a graph, but if you took the time to put it on paint or whatever, put on and rotate a bunch of text, draw some goofy pictures and then post it on here without being distracted, big round of applause
It’s a joke, man, chill out.
I have a form of autism called Aspergers (I was diagnosed by an actual psychiatrist when I was 13, not be wikipedia). The first thing you gotta learn is to be able to laugh at yourself and not look at it like the world’s going to end.
Trust me. When I was 13 I was socially awkwards, hyper, and all that shit. I was determined that I didn’t want to be like that anymore and now I’m pretty normal on the surface.
Oh and I still doodle on notebooks and stuff all the time. Even kids who don’t have ADD doodle
…I have an IQ of 153, I’ve been on the Dean’s List for 2 semesters (only been in college one year), I’m a writer and I could probably kick your ass in chess, scrabble, or any RTS. I have had ADD. Trust me, having ADD is hard, but I like it. You focus on everything at once, you just gotta learn how to parse through the nonsense and keep a level head.
I think you were misdiagnosed. You obviously have “Overwhelming Modesty Disorder.”
Narcissistic personality disorder.
You don’t have ADD, you’re just a pretentious asshole.
Wow these other disorders combined? you make one whole complete and total prick, with a side of asshole and a whopping bowl of pain in the ass.
Why does that sound like a Captain Planet cartoon?
“By your disorders combined, I am… Captain Totalprick!”
I was laughing so hard when I read this, I had tears in my eyes.
i agree with you, dude. i’m 16, all the testing i’ve ever had done on me for a subject that requires memory, math, blah, blah, all my grades are up to at least 90th percentile, except for my social cues, ability to filter out sounds, etc. is all average or slightly below. even if the people commenting here think you’re a prick, they’re still being asses for shooting down your opinion. (P.S- dontcha just love having to walk into a crowded room and feeling like you can hear and follow EVERY conversation within earshot? very unpleasant, but it’s served me well a few times
)
NPD symptomatology, just FYI:
Individuals with narcissistic personality disorder have a grandiose sense of self-importance. They routinely overestimate their abilities and inflate their accomplishments, often appearing boastful and pretentious. People with narcissistic personality disorder may blithely assume that others attribute the same value to their efforts and may be surprised when the praise they expect and feel they deserve is not forthcoming. Often implicit in the inflated judgments of their own accomplishments is an underestimation (devaluation) of the contributions of others.
yeah… the kicking of ass in RTS’ may have been a little much, but still, the poster seems to have a fairly level-headed view of themselves, other than the bit about gaming O.o
Absolutely agreed.
Oh, yes… and sometimes, you hear more than you *ever* wanted to…
What’s worse is, when you can hear everyone *breathing* during a test. Ugh.
Kiddo, we all hear that. And frequently it’s fear panting.
“You focus on everything at once, you just gotta learn how to parse through the nonsense and keep a level head”
this is exactly what add is… i have add and it sounds like this guy does. Ive gotten straight a’s a couple of times…you just have to work alot harder. I was officially tested for ADD, i can relate to this. and no ADD person is stupid. infact 80% of all inventors/entertainers are add adhd. best example is albert einstein
No one’s denigrating you, rest assured. We used to allow lead in paint, until we discovered it was correlative with a particular set of illnesses in children.
Studies indicate a correlation between TV watching and ADD/ADHD. Don’t you wish you would have at least had the option of knowing that and possibly preventing the severity based on that particular finding?
I wish it for you.
Could you please cite your source of the Einstein diagnosis? I hadn’t heard that before.
* Studies indicate a correlation between TV watching and ADD/ADHD in children under the age of two.
Apologies.
http://www.add-adhd-treatments.com/Famous-People.html
citation
From that link:
Check out this list of famous people who either have or are thought to have ADD or ADHD.
So your source is a website that’s just making an educated guess that he had it. Nifty.
(And a site that appears to make its money by selling ADD/ADHD treatment options. Not really an unbiased source.)
problem- you’re leaving out the fact that the top of the page, where the albert einstein bit is stated, says “Famous People With
ADHD and ADD”, not disagreeing with you just don’t want there to end up a cherrypicking argument on here
Uhh… I don’t watch TV. And I still have a raging case of ADD. Only reason I get my schoolwork done at all is massive doses of caffeine, a quiet cubbyhole to take tests in, and classmates that are all at least four years younger than me. Before I discovered the caffeine, I thought I wasn’t college material at all.
Focus on the bold text. If you can’t, then you’re NOT college material
Correlation does not imply causation.
And where exactly did I use the word cause, for the twentieth time?
Jeesus. Lay off he TV, people!
You are advocating for a change in behavior in one variable (time spent in front of the TV) as a result of the connection to the other variable (ADD/ADHD). If you didn’t see a causative effect, why would you say that? Who’s to say that increased TV watching isn’t a form of self-medicating by children who have (or are predisposed to) ADD? Or that they’re both caused by a third factor, such as a lack of parental attentiveness? You chose to use ADD as the soapbox upon which to stand for your “TV is the devil” speech.
Blah, blah, blah. Cry about it already.
It’s a scientific conclusion. Do with it what you will.
Oh, and read a g-d book, already, nitwit.
to me, it appears he’s read enough. His arguments are valid, and you just dismissed them with no contest. he doesn’t need to read a book just because you don’t see a conclusion as the same kind of definitive proof you do. i think it’s more advantageous that he’s open minded about it.
OMG I love you… that’s my favorite statement in the entire world.
“80% of all inventors/entertainers are add adhd.”
I call bullshit. Cite your source.
roflmfao!!!
its like i did this chart lol
metallica rulez
didnt see i spelt rulez with a Z
oop there it is again
The previous graph is the reason for this graph.
These “disorders” were first diagnosed with the advent of the electronic age. Coincidence? I think not.
Plop a kid in front of a medium for hours on end that sucks all conscious thought from a child’s head and replaces it with irrelevant imagery and SHOCK OF ALL SHOCKS that child can’t concentrate when asked to think on its own?
What a joke. This society is fu(ked.
I think you forgot to take your crazy pills, or perhaps you’re talking in code. You haVE TO TELL US THE CODE IF YOU WANT US TO UNDERSTAND YOU.
Exactly my point. Here, have a gadget and a drool bib.
I just LOVE this tired old arguement. If you actually look into the psychological history the idea of ADHD has been around since the turn of the century. It is not just something “made -up”. It’s also been proven that children with ADHD don’t develop the disorder from TV they actually gravitate towards that type of media since it stimulates the right brain. I’m a history teacher and I can tell you 70 percent of what I learned was from digital media.
Cite it or STFU.
Funny that you expect Amy to bring citation when you yourself have none…
Just wait. My citations are in moderation.
Here’s a taste:
A new study appearing in the April issue of Pediatrics concludes that children who watch television experience shortened attention spans and considerably enhances the chances, based on number of hours of television watched, of developing ADDs (attention deficit disorders) later on in life. The American Academy of Pediatrics has recommended that children under the age of two not watch television and this new study seems to validate such a recommendation.
Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that.
Where are the statistics? This is a scientific study.
Did you know that in 2002, two million pediatric prescriptions were written for Paxil alone, many to toddlers.
Where are the stats there?
A) that comment was a joke; a quote from Homer Simpson. I bet most people here got the joke.
B) Since you are forgetting this is a HUMOR site, are want to engage in a debate to show off how smart you think you are, you actually reference several statistics, although you list few numbers:
“children who watch television experience shortened attention spans” – They must be shortened by a specific percentage. Scientific studies don’t just say “shortened”
“based on number of hours of television watched” – a statistic
“of developing ADDs (attention deficit disorders)” – I am sure the cite how much higher the risk of developing them is.
“children under the age of two” – age is a statistic.
Clearly you are an idiot with just enough information to be dangerous. You should just go away and everyone else should just ignore you.
Sad, really. And you’d disagree with the findings of the “American Academy of Pediatrics?” Why?
Definition of a “statistic.”
1. (used with a sing. verb) The mathematics of the collection, organization, and interpretation of numerical data, especially the analysis of population characteristics by inference from sampling.
2. (used with a pl. verb) Numerical data.
Yup, numerical data. You asked where it was, I pointed it out, and then you defined what I pointed out, therefore proving to everyone you’re an idiot.
And I cracked a joke, never commented on whether the findings were right or wrong.
You really must be used to being called wrong.
This is a CONCLUSION, and hence a part of the SCIENTIFIC METHOD It’s not a stats cite/result. You may want to refer to the word CONCLUDES.
This from someone who quotes Homer, and not the author of the Iliad. Yep. You’re a veritable genius.
Way to prove correlation of my point.
LAST WORD!
You’re the one arguing with someone who is clearly toying with you. Sounds to me like he may be the smarter one in the conversation.
Toying with me. Amusing turn of words.
It’s not arguing when you’re correct. It’s educating.
No, I’m pretty sure it’s arguing if you are in an argument.
Somebody give this whole thread a primer on correlation/causation. You’d get the same data if ADD kids were more likely to seek out TV as if TV caused ADD. And, as I’ve mentioned–I don’t own a TV and didn’t own one as a kid, and still have it. (And autism, incidentally, despite my total lack of a refrigerator mother and complete absence of mercury poisoning.)
Crux, focus on the discussion, or get out of it.
Crux could easily be right. he is putting valuable information into the conversation; whereas you are just arguing with anyone that offends or challenges you. above, you’ve even sunken to the level of name-calling and treating people as inferiors. you are asinine, most definitely the last time i check any of your threads.
I was given a prescription of Paxil by my psichiatrist when i was 11. I became insanely happy and loopy, gained 100 pounds, was taken off the drug, and was diagnosed with Asperger’s… Nice prescription Dr. Burger (ironic isnt it? Dr. Burger gave me aspergers…)
Same thing happened to me, except they also had me on Zyprexa and the doctor’s name wasn’t Burger.
Link or it doesn’t matter.
Worse, link or it’s plagiarism.
Hmmm. Moderation again.
Oh well. Click my name throughout this discussion for all links.
it says that people who watch tv DEVELOP ADD not that TV CAUSES it. keep trying.
Who said cause? Point that out… but wait! Oh look! A shiny!
“The previous graph is the reason for this graph.” Your first post in this thread. If you believe it’s the reason for it, then you must believe it’s the cause.
The GRAPH itself. Can’t you read? Where did I EVER say TV CAUSES ADD/ADHD.
The GRAPH itself. Can’t you read? Where did I EVER say TV CAUSES ADD/ADHD?
Apologies for the double post.
So you were saying that the only reason this graph was posted was because the TV graph was posted the day before? Well, here’s the rest of that post:
“These “disorders” were first diagnosed with the advent of the electronic age. Coincidence? I think not.
Plop a kid in front of a medium for hours on end that sucks all conscious thought from a child’s head and replaces it with irrelevant imagery and SHOCK OF ALL SHOCKS that child can’t concentrate when asked to think on its own?
What a joke. This society is fu(ked.”
Um, yeah, that sure looks like you’re saying these disorders are caused by watching TV, not that this graph was caused by the previous day’s graph. And before you come after me for it, no, you never actually used the word “cause”. The implication is pretty clear, though.
And that study you keep quoting (or at least, the American Academy of Pediatrics’ recommendation) also seems to be treating TV as a cause, because otherwise why recommend avoiding TV for children of any age? And yet, every time somebody brings it up, you start going on about how nobody ever said it was a cause again.
By the way, I find it kind of funny that you keep telling people to pay attention and asking if they can read just because they disagree with you, but you can’t seem to keep track of what you’ve already said in your own posts.
I never said cause. It’s called “the scientific method.” Let me spell if out for you real s-l-o-w so you can understand.
Correlation is a statistical measurement of the relationship between two variables. Possible correlations range from +1 to –1. A zero correlation indicates that there is no relationship between the variables. A correlation of –1 indicates a perfect negative correlation, meaning that as one variable goes up, the other goes down. A correlation of +1 indicates a perfect positive correlation, meaning that both variables move in the same direction together.
I think we all agree that there is a correlation, and nobody has said anything to imply that they do not know what a correlation is. HOWEVER, as the rest of us keep saying, correlation is not causation. Yes, there is a relationship between TV watching and ADD. However, it is just as plausible that that correlation exists because young children with ADD tend to prefer TV, or that both are due to some other factor which hasn’t been accounted for, as that children are developing ADD because they watched TV when they were younger. It only makes sense to say that young children shouldn’t watch TV if you believe that that is what is causing ADD, though, because otherwise the children will end up with ADD anyway.
There is also a correlation between second hand smoke, lead paint chips, and childhood illnesses.
But hey, it’s just as plausible that you kids would be fu(ked up anyway, so go ahead and buy them Chinese toys for them to suck and puff away while they sit at your feet staring at the TV.
Just don’t ask me to pay for it when they have problems. Those who don’t learn from their mistakes are dooming their children.
Here’s something I *actually* never said: that I was in the habit of letting my child watch a lot of TV when she was under two. She does watch quite a bit now, and she did watch a little bit when she was younger, but it wasn’t a matter of plopping her down in front of the TV all day from infancy, like you seem to assume. I don’t know for sure that TV watching causes ADD or anything else, but it seemed wise to keep her away from it.
The main reason I felt the need to respond to you was because you kept insisting that you never said the TV watching causes ADD. I really, *really* hate seeing that kind of behavior in an argument. If you had started off with your post about lead paint and secondhand smoke, you would have had a much stronger argument, and I wouldn’t have been so irritated about you contradicting yourself.
Again, learn to read.
No one ever said TV causes ADD except you.
Nice work.
Learn some reading comprehension. You don’t have to use the word “cause” to say that you believe TV causes ADD. I’ve already listed a small sampling of the things you’ve said that, while they don’t actually include the word “cause”, cannot be plausibly interpreted as meaning anything else. But since you responded to that by telling me that I’m an idiot whose children will work at Costco, at this point I doubt you have any actual, rational response.
…and yet you still feel compelled to engage.
Intriguing. Do tell how I need reading comprehension assistance.
pathetic, you’ve definitely implied it. from my perspective, nelly is right- you do seem to be going back on what you’ve said quite a bit. at this point, you look like a politician.
Can I help it if you infer words that aren’t there? Nope.
Disagree all you want. I don’t give a rat’s behind as long as I’m not financing your mistakes.
Just blame yourself when your kids is a Costco greeter while mine is a CEO.
Let me say it again. No, you did not use the word “cause”. I suspect now that that was intentional, so that you would have an out when this argument came up, but I don’t really care if it was or not. You did, however, say many things that imply that you believe it is the cause:
“The previous graph is the reason for this graph.”
Reason = Cause, and I really don’t see how you can claim that you were just saying that this graph was posted because of the other graph, given the rest of your post.
“These “disorders” were first diagnosed with the advent of the electronic age. Coincidence? I think not.”
If you don’t think it’s a coincidence, and you don’t think these disorders are caused by something to do with the “electronic age”, then what do you think it is? Are you honestly going to tell me you were saying that the electronic age was caused by ADD, or that both were caused by some other factor? Because those are the only other options I can think of.
“Plop a kid in front of a medium for hours on end that sucks all conscious thought from a child’s head and replaces it with irrelevant imagery and SHOCK OF ALL SHOCKS that child can’t concentrate when asked to think on its own?”
Again, you don’t directly SAY that the concentration problems are caused by watching TV, but I honestly don’t know what else you could have been getting at there.
And finally:
“Just blame yourself when your kids is a Costco greeter while mine is a CEO.”
Um, yeah. It sure sounds to me like you’re saying that my “kids” will be a Costco greeter BECAUSE of something I am doing, while yours will be a CEO BECAUSE of something you are doing. The only thing I’ve seen in this thread that you could plausibly be referring to is allowing them to watch TV, unless you’re just saying that I’m stupid and will therefore have stupid kids, in which case all I have to say is the ad hominem attacks are getting old.
They will be Costco greeters. Guaranteed.
Clean out the basement.
Way to ignore the actual point of the post, and go for another ad hominem attack!
How’s it ad hominem when the whole point is how children will be affected when you plop them in front of the TV?
You’re an idiot. But you’re a fun idiot.
Ah! So you admit that you’re saying my children will be affected by watching TV by becoming Costco greeters (in other words, TV is the cause)! When you didn’t address the actual content of my post, I had to assume that it was the only other plausible interpretation.
Now, “You’re an idiot” really can’t be interpreted as anything other than an ad hominem attack, and you still haven’t addressed anything else from my post.
Idiots are for playing with, not rationalizing with.
It’s not an attack when it’s a fact.
So, you ignore what I say in my posts, repeatedly insult me (despite the fact that I never insulted you or attacked anything other than your arguments), and make blatant assumptions about my child-raising skills and mental ability based on nothing but the fact that I had the nerve to point out that you did, in fact, say that watching TV is the cause of ADD (even if you did do so without actually using the word “cause”), then you tell me *I’m* the one who isn’t worth arguing with. Nice.
You’re not. Goodbye.
fuck you, man. Bionelly is right, you’re just an asshole.
bionelly is right. you’re being asinine.
I have a very long attention span, yet I use to sit in frount of the T.V all the time when I was little. Different people react to different things in different ways.
Maybe these children are more drawn to the T.V because of ADHD ect?
And another:
Conclusions. Early television exposure is associated
with attentional problems at age 7. Efforts to limit television
viewing in early childhood may be warranted, and
additional research is needed. Pediatrics 2004;113:708–
713; ADHD, television, attentional problems, prevention.
pay attention to the language that your “studies” are using.
“associated” means correlation, not causation.
Duh. Again, where did I say cause? Can you focus for one second?
TV is probably a useful tool for people with ADHD, since it captures their focus where printed material might have a more difficult time. I haven’t had much luck with it, since I find TV to be too slow and boring and cannot focus on it very well; but I am pretty sure it could be adapted to help educate children with ADHD who pay attention more easily to fast-moving TV programs than monotonous elementary-school lessons.
:/ yeah, i don’t find TV a big educator for me- maybe i’ll watch a show or two a night, tops, but mostly, i learn by sitting in the class and letting my focus wander- most of the time i’m just
sorry, computer glitch. anyway, most of the time i’m focused in on the teacher- especially anything they’ve thrown my way text-wise, i LOVE to read and feel like i should read everything i could, all the comments in a thread, my friend got me to read the first three twilight books by sneaking them into my bag. they sucked, but i read them anyway, because i find any new situation interesting. i have a lot more diagnoses on my record than ADD, but i mostly have trouble with the organization and the higher executive functions- my binders are a mess, and i almost NEVER do my homework, no matter how organized it is- it’s because i’m in a fixed mindset, school is for school, and home is for NOT-school. i’ve been doing better as of late, but usually my detailed report card for each subject will be a 40-60% for homework, around 70 (90 – 20% for two days late) and every single test above a 94. it works for me, even if it doesn’t average out right- i can almost always work with my teachers and discuss the problem, and because i have support in-school so that my parents don’t bother me so much, i can do a lot better nowadays. it’s a wonderful feeling, because once upon a time, my home felt like a hell-hole when i had to do homework, and my incomplete assignments were basically a big “F*ck you” to my parents. i’ve had a lot of problems academically due to my disorders, i.e- when my anxiety kicks in, i’ll skip a class and not know how to go back the next day, dig myself a hole and be too scared to talk about what’s going on. but, the bright side is if you let me sit in a classroom and put enough things in my environment so i don’t “rest my head”, even if i’m not paying attention, i’ll still learn almost every single bit of the material you’re trying to teach me. sometimes, it can be pretty awesome, even if i am a little…. challenged sometimes :/
most of the time i’m just … oh look, a shiny…
j/k
You seem to have a level head on your shoulders regarding your challenges. Good on ‘ya.
And how about this, hmmm?
A new study appearing in the April issue of Pediatrics concludes that children who watch television experience shortened attention spans and considerably enhances the chances, based on number of hours of television watched, of developing ADDs (attention deficit disorders) later on in life. The American Academy of Pediatrics has recommended that children under the age of two not watch television and this new study seems to validate such a recommendation.
Nice that they say what anyone with any freakin’ common sense knows!
(you rock, btw)
forgot where I read it, but I love it-
(paraphrase alert)
“Einstein never had any of that crap as a baby…”
(I think I’ve read he didn’t speak until 4…?)
Yes. The theory is that he had some sort of neurological difference–perhaps autism, as evidenced by obsessiveness and eccentricity. Many autistic people with academic interests have found homes in academia. I think that’s where the stereotype of the eccentric professor came from. Engineering is another profession for the eccentric types, especially visual or logical thinkers.
It’s a theory, and you need to cite your “many autistic people” assertion. I’m in academia, and have been for many years, and have never met a colleague with autism. Your assertion is erroneous without citation.
Hmm… well, go look up the information on Asperger’s and Silicon Valley. Autism is so common there precisely because people with mild autistic traits gather there to work, and inevitably fall in love, marry, and have children there. That’s one example.
I personally know an autistic engineer and an Asperger’s biologist who also teaches college classes.
You know, if you dislike this technological age so much, there are several ascetic communities that you might choose to join. Never have to touch that devil computer again.
What I dislike is the number of children who are plopped in front of technology and subsequently drugged out of their minds in order to function in schools. Additionally, I dislike funding the medications and special programs for said children.
Careful, scarecrow. You’re about to flame out.
…and yet I apparently spent time plopped in front of technology, making random comments that only make sense to me.
Sorry you’re too pathetic to understand.
Mommy and daddy ignored you, obviously. Enjoy flipping burgers.
Wow… angry much? Oh right, I forgot, we’re on the internet, can’t have any civil discourse here.
And I do enjoy flipping burgers. It’s nice to go out and cook on the grill for my fellow graduate students.
Hm… these comments need a “delete” option. That argument ad hominem really didn’t dignify a response; I let my emotions get the better of me.
I wasn’t responding to you, but to “I am pathetic, ” as you will note when you look at the nesting.
Ah… again, apologies. Your names were similar enough to seem the same with a quick glance.
There’s no delete because then the whole nest would have to go away, and that… wouldn’t work?
…would lead to a division by zero.
Good thing you pointed that out. I thought you were arguing with yourself for a second there.
Apparently I misread your first post, then. My apologies. I do agree that the television is not a babysitter. However, I still disagree with your unwillingness to treat these disorders. Even with your sampler citation, nothing was mentioned about TV being the only source of ADD/ADHD. Would you deny treatment to those who develop ADD naturally simply because some develop the disorder because of unnatural factors?
I’m not suggesting that there aren’t legitimate cases. What I AM suggesting is what these studies have concluded, whether it be causal or correlative:
In the study of more than 2,000 children, Christakis found that for every hour watched at age one and age three, the children had almost a ten percent higher chance of developing attention problems that could be diagnosed as ADHD by age 7. A toddler watching three hours of infant television daily had nearly a 30 percent higher chance of having attention problems in school.
And I truly believe we are over medicating our children:
Government studies suggest approximately 4-million school-age children suffer from ADHD. Yet, about 20-million prescriptions were written last year for stimulant drugs, according to IMS Health, a health care information company. The number of prescriptions written for the drugs has steadily increased since 1996 when about 14-million were written.
I won’t reply soon, but I’m not ignoring you — I have a lab meeting for the next two hours.
Hopefully he is on the “subject” side of the lab, although world does need more mad scientists, such as Dr Weird on ATHF.
Over medicated? Yes. We’re a society of hypochondriacs.
But as to the first point, you seem to have fallen into the trap of thinking that correlation implies causation (based on your previous posts). It might be that the hours of television somehow altered the brain chemistry to create ADHD in the child, or it might be that the developing disorder was revealing itself in the child’s hunger for more television, as Amy suggested earlier. What you have cited suggests that studies have found a correlation, but proof of a causative relationship will require more studying.
In re: causality vs. correlation
My heart says: “This is a foregone conclusion,” particularly when attempting to educate today’s mindless drones.
My head says: “I can’t prove anything. I can only disprove it.”
Sometimes my heart takes over my fingers. But it’s very rare.
Translation: I was saying what I want to be true, not what can be shown to be true.
Wrong again, little illiterate one. Studies indicate overwhelmingly what I am discussing. *I* personally cannot show causality.
Can you disprove causality, personally? Give it a shot.
Okay, seriously, don’t you guys have anything better to do..?
Your point being…?
Well, a plausible alternate explanation for that correlation is that it makes an awful lot of sense that kids with ADHD would naturally gravitate to television. They’ve got a stimulation quota that’s much higher than most peoples’ before they can pay attention; so TV is a natural way to work around that high stimulation threshold and focus on something. I think we can learn from this, to learn how to educate these kids–breaking things down into short chunks (most scenes on TV are very short), using images and videos instead of plain text or speech, and (as in video games) getting the kid to participate actively in the lesson. We know they learn differently. Increased TV-watching could be a clue as to exactly how they’re different and how learning could be made easier for them.
Infants and toddlers don’t gravitate. Others gravitate their bodies and foci for them.
Citing:
‘This is pathetic’ has no children, no wife, lives alone in his parent’s basement, trolls the internet to justify is hate-on about life, and frequently makes a total ass of himself in the internet public domain by typing a few lines with his oh so wise cracks about what he thinks life outside looks like.
Oh, and he’s got a disorder,
Asshole Syndrome. As in, head firmly shoved in a.
You complain that a kid sits in front of a medium for hours on end that sucks all conscious thought from his head, and you’re bitching, on a forum, on the internet, on a joke website? What’s your excuse again? Ass-hat, thank you very much.
Have A Nice Day.
Again, my point is proven. Illiterate.
Why, yes, your head is pointed, ignorant.
Excellent rhyme scheme. Who read that for you, again?
You may want them to read the studies linked above to you before you procreate.
Time to become juvenile and respond with nothing you can even try to banter your oh so slanted replies with and keep your dignity….
NO U.
Could you please have your personal-care aide translate?
I think it’s amusing that you’re trying to hammer home a legitimate argument (and yes, you can have an opposing viewpoint) by insulting and trying to act like you’re smarter than everyone else in the room…
Way to go with the 3rd grade retorts.
Here’s mine: NO U!
MY third grade retorts? Do elucidate…
> Could you please have your personal-care aide translate?
> Who read that for you, again?
> Illiterate.
> little illiterate one
Oh, and the ability to use a thesaurus does not make you a literate nor educated person. Don’t bother arguing with me. You think ADHD is bad, you should see a real crazy person without his medication. You amuse me. Do not make me make you my special friend. You’d hate that.
Do you like beans? Do you like George Wendt? Would you like to eat beans with George Wendt?
That’s not third grade. That’s simply a measured response to third grade taunting. If the poster WAS literate, would said posted have missed the provided evidence? I think not.
Thesaurus. That’s ever so amusing.
*poster
il⋅lit⋅er⋅ate
/ɪˈlɪtərɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [i-lit-er-it] Show IPA
–adjective
1. unable to read and write: an illiterate group.
2. having or demonstrating very little or no education.
3. showing lack of culture, esp. in language and literature.
4. displaying a marked lack of knowledge in a particular field: He is musically illiterate.
Deffinition fail!
But I should stipulate a great fondness for George Wendt. I’d have a beer with George and John Ratzenberger anytime. Perhaps even beans, given the appropriate location.
No U
Amusing. but still proving my original point. Thank you so much for your assistance in anecdotally proving my hypothesis through your actions. Well done.
No, You.
Yet again, illiterate. Perhaps one more try and you’ll recall your third-grade lessons. Or, perhaps the television has thoroughly destroyed your brain, as I have previously postulated.
If you get it right, I’ll give you a cookie and a shiny…
No, Ewe.
You’re almost there, you poor, sad little product of American television; perhaps the promise of cash and fabulous prizes will serve as the appropriate incentive for proper grammar and syntax?
And we all wonder why Asia and India are surpassing us in the world market financially and ideologically.
Laughable, indeed.
Who wants to take bets on what I was doing on my computer while the girl I was secretly in love with was at prom with her boyfriend?
(just like a typical message board flamer…try to piss everyone else off, show how great your own vocabulary by using words like “postulated” that normal people never use in real life, and result to name calling when called out. I can’t WAIT to see the response to this.)
Isn it hilarious that the people who haven’t experienced ADHD or behavioral disorders are the first to cry foul when someone creatively pokes fun?
If I didn’t laugh at myself or share my hilarious antics with everyone, I think my friends and family would go insane.
Laughing at and laughing with are two different things. The graph is funny; many of the responses are not.
Amen, sister!
i was put in special education classes for ADHD and some other random diagnoses back in the mid 80’s(1st grade) i pretty much did 3rd grade work thru the end of 9th grade where i got put into regular classes. i got so over whelmed over and over in the regular classes. that i dropped out of(and went back to) high school 3 times. i ended up getting my GED and passing on the first try with above average grades.
i am very angry with how kids with so called disorders are tossed to the curbside… the whole reason for my misbehavior when i was in 1st grade was because i was abused by my father and taken away from him and put into foster homes for 5 years. no one bothered to get to the bottom of that. they just medicate medicate medicate… and quarantine away from the general population. well FU ALL im a federal officer now! stop dicking people out of an education because of behavior.
You needed more than just a diagnosis, you needed counseling. No pill fixes everything, no diagnosis is the end of the matter.
Congrats on all of your achievements, and I hope you use your motivation towards helping those kids like you in schools now! They can all use the encouragement you needed back then.
ADHD meds are very potent drugs (speed), take one if you doubt it.
Only kids who truly have chemical disorders should be given chemicals.
Only about 1 in 5 kids “diagnosed” with ADHD have it.
(hint: only DOCTORS can do this- not teachers, psychologists, or “counselors”)
watch this, it sums up the rest of them.
^^ this
Wow-
moderated off again.
Maybe it was the link; I’ll try again…
(um, check out youtube for South Park’s take on ADHD…)
ADD/ADHD can only be diagnosed by a doctor.
Not teachers who are tired of telling the kid to STFU, or to pay attention.
Smart kids are bored by stuff geared towards the average.
The chemicals commonly prescribed (speed) should only be given to kids with actual chemical imbalances. If you give Ritalin, Focalin, Vyvanse, whatever, to a child that is just bored/acting out, you are hurting their brains when they are developing.
oh yeah-
I’m a school nurse…
Do you have a fetus on your head?
YAY!! Someone gets a joke!!
Very creative… but random!
Well done! (=
… Not at all funny.
METALLICA RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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In the “80’s, yes.
These days, they are a bunch of middle-aged millionaires that don’t want you to save a few bucks.
(RIP, Cliff.)
amen
Just wondering, how valid is that study u keep quoting. If its tested on normal families, i wonder what the correlation between ‘parents with genes likely to give ADD/ADHD’ and ‘the amount of tv parents let their kids watch’ is.
I for one wouldn’t be surprised if further testing would show that parents how perhaps suffer from mild ADHD (and thus likely to give their kids AHDH) let their kids watch an unhealthy amount of tv. These kids would then show up as having ADHD from watching tv, even tho the basis of ADHD was already geneticly there…
I cited more than one, but this one seems particularly relevant to your point.
A study from the American Academy of Pediatrics shows that watching videos as a toddler may lead to Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD, also called ADD in UK) in later life.
TV watching “rewires” an infant’s brain, says Dr. Dimitri A. Christakis lead researcher and director of the Child Health Institute at Children’s Hospital and Regional Medical Center, Seattle, Wash. The damage shows up at age 7 when children have difficulty paying attention in school.
…unless, of course, kids who are more likely to have ADHD are also more likely to seek out highly stimulating activities like TV-watching.
Since when do infants “seek out” something like t.v.?
Infants seek food. And attention. That’s about it.
unless they are genetically modified super-fetuses on the heads of school nurses?
or, they are omnipresent genius infants that can see everything but choose to focus the minds they can put elsewhere, away from their bodies, in front of the tv? hmmm?
i’m just messin with ya >.<
I agree, volirus makes a good point. Correlation does not always mean causation. You can’t necessarily diregard TV all together, but parents Genes and the way they raise their children also will play a part in the childs behavior, probably a bigger part.
I am a teenager with Aspberger’s. Either I have a very minor case, noone else here either knows a person with it, has it themselves and are morons, or a just morons. Likely some combination of the 2nd and 4th ones. It barely affects my life at all (I think). The only special treatment I’ve ever taken advantage of was the ability to use a computer during a TDSB required literacy test. Which I only did because my typing is WAY better than my writing, which is still fine.
These pills have finally cured my attention deficit dis – OH MY GOD IT’S A NARWHAL!
No, I don’t really have ADD. Although I’ve been mistaken for having it.
Anyway, win.
you have no idea about ADD. it’s not about making random exclamations at all. you’ve been “mistaken” for having it by a your peers that have no medical training at all and only know stereotyped ideas of what ADD is.
in conclusion, no, you’re not funny, or cute.
although, narwhals are fantastical, amelia. CHARLIE, GRAB ONTO OUR TONGUES!! anyway, pretty much everyone i knows makes completely random exclamations. i agree with you, because otherwise every single person i know would have ADD.
Sorry for the double post, but you forgot one: demigods!
You mean me?
As in, Percy Jackson and the Olympians.
i have ADD and the people who say they “have” it make me want to rip my hair out. it’s not really a problem for me now, but growing up it hurt me a lot. I didn’t have a lot of friends, and i had a lot of trouble in school.
i just hate it when people say they have ADD because they aren’t motivated to write a paper.
Emo kids pretend to have Asperger’s now? Lord, is there anything they *won’t* co-opt?
I have it for real (medically diagnosed, not self-diagnosed, thanks). Most people don’t notice unless I tell them – usually they just assume I’m shy. If you knew a particularly obnoxious person with Asperger’s, I’m sorry, but please know we’re not all like that.
i hate this steriotype of add…add is a lack of dopamine. People who have it can focus on many things at once but not just one. 80% of all actors and entertainers have add/adhd (legitimate add, not my 5 year old kid doesnt want to do homework and is acting hyper (normal) so im going to drug him up)
another thing you morons don’t seem to realize is that ADD is NOT the same as ADHD.
ADD: Attention Deficit Disorder
ADHD: Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.
ADHD makes individuals such as myself much more hyper and slightly more irritable. I was diagnosed when I was 8 and my teachers rather hated me before that… But anyway, there is little to no correlation between TV and ADHD other than the fact that we can’t sit through commercials sometimes.
Focus on something besides the shiny. Read the studies. It’s fairly simple, really. If you want to deny, that’s really your right. Just don’t procreate and plunk your progeny before the mighty boob tube, or your doing yourself, said child, and society as a whole a massive disservice.
Studies indicate lead pain chips are correlative to illnesses in children. Studies say TV is correlative to ADD/ADHD in children. Focus.
Heh. *paint chips
You know, there is also correlation between the decrease in the number of swashbuckling pirates in the world and the increase in global warming. In the 1400’s – 1800’s there were lots of pirates and no global warming. Since the 1900’s, the number of pirates decreased, while global warming increased. One could point to those two and say they are related because the numbers track well, but there is no difference.
Same with ADD, ADHD and TV watching. Yup, they have increased at the same time (along with global warming, BTW), but one has nothing to do with the other.
Of course, my having treated children with these conditions for 25 years probably means nothing to you because you talk just like the smart-ass interns I mentor, just out of med school who think they know it all because they read it in one book.
You do realize the real world is going to kick your ass when you have to deal with it, right?
Hey man, if you choose to ignore the findings of the American Academy of Pediatrics to the detriment of the children you are supposedly treating, that’s on you, “actual doctor.” Just let parents know you’re living in the past and don’t keep up with relevant field-related studies.
“A new study appearing in the April issue of Pediatrics concludes that children who watch television experience shortened attention spans and considerably enhances the chances, based on number of hours of television watched, of developing ADDs (attention deficit disorders) later on in life. The American Academy of Pediatrics has recommended that children under the age of two not watch television and this new study seems to validate such a recommendation.”
Guess what, numnuts? I am dealing with the real world, and the mentor with whom I am working wouldn’t be such an ignorant self-serving twit.
“Real doctor.” And you’re a 185 IQ mensa member with a 12 inch co(k too and a penchant for pleasing the ladies too, right?
LIES. i am ALL the pirates the world will EVER need combined. we are just saving our energy in our human-sized storage unit, taking turns at being “civilized”
we shall be backkkk!!!! (we totally left because of global warming- we REALLLY needed to chill in Antarctica sometimes, you know?
just kidding
ROFL! *you’re
I’m sorry you where moaning abotu people being unable to spell/read?
Ah. I see you ate the paint chips. A cautionary tale…
Its not rright to make fun of people who have aspergers living with it is a struggle…..
Thanks
If people were more like you, then Aspergers, Autism, and other forms of ASD would be better recognised and accepted by everyone in the world 
The guy who made the graph mentioned here that he has aspergers (but I don’t blame you for not reading the crap posted above)
btw, People, when I mentioned about having Aspergers and being a kid or an emo, I was trying to make a point that not all people with Aspergers are the same, and that it is possible to live a normal life despite being Aspie. I never said once that I didn’t like the graph. In fact, I find it very amusing ^_^ The one thing that some people without Asperger and Autism or any Autistic Spectrum Disorder including ADD/ADHD (yes it is on the same spectrum as Aspergers and Autism people) fail to realise is that people like me who have any of those conditions actually have an ability to laugh at ourselves. We’re not all sitting in dark rooms going “Oh, woe is me! I shall never be normal” *rolls eyes* News Flash: Normal is just a label on a shampoo bottle
I think the point is that if you go to be diagnosed with
something, chances are you will be.
People used to just be called “kinda weird, but really smart”-
now it’s a freaking “syndrome”.
Get over yourselves, folks.
OMG, this is the best!
My brother has ADD and Aspergers.
Not really emo at all to be honest.
Never heard of an emo kid who claimed to have ADD and Aspergers either. But whattaya know? You learn something new everyday.
I have ADD. My brain always feels like it’s jumping from one place to another. I actually used to have ADHD, but I’ve mellowed out a lot since I stopped taking my meds (lol yes, that’s right; I STOPPED taking my meds). :3
Hey, I have Aspergers and I am neither emo NOR do I have AD… oh look, a kitty! =D
Wait, how is anyone with ADD supposed to read all them commen……
ohh…a graph about movie credits.
Metallica does rule.
Well…huhhh huhh huh… “These guys are pretty cool – even though they’re sixty.”
As someone who has ADD I’d just like to say…
Ooh, look! A penny!
METALLICA RULES!!!!!!!!! and there 50 not 60
Stay in school, kids.
should i even bother with the forms of “they’re”? ffs, there was a graph on it like TWO days ago.
hahahah I’m orange xD well i don’t have A.D.D….i just get easily distracted lol
the green talks about 5th grade and im IN 5th grade and i have good grades
how many kids with add does it take to change a light bulb?
someone already told this one. next time you tell a joke, read the above comments to see if someone’s already posted it.
i would report it if it made sence
it’s 11:22
Metallica sucks.
yay i got to the end after an hour and a half
do you people even know what emo means? it doesn’t mean someone with “SAD” or aspergers. look up the history of 80’s hardcore and get rid of your misnomer slang. nerds.
it also doesn’t mean a crybaby loser with bad hair. LOOK IT UP.
ps: this graph sucks.
Metallica Rulez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! w0000t!!!
Uhhh…at least the emo part’s wrong… =P
Seriously I seem to be the only kid in my past 2 schools with asperger’s that isn’t completely nuts.
Yeah, same I actily have a tendency to forget I have it though since I have such a low degree of it. I’ve just learned to live with it over time
i was reading down the comment list, and omg would people stop taking this graph so litterally and just see that its a joke? i have several differant pschological dease’s and i still think that these graphs and jokes are funny!
Thanks for all of the comments, guys. I hope you all saw Metallica’s Death Magnetic Tour!
Keep on rockin’, and I promise, no more shit like St. Anger or the Black Album! In fact James and I are working on writing some real heavy-ass shit for the next album. Think Slayer!
Keep rockin’ and I’ll see you soon!
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heh.. asbergers..
Hmm,I’m in the mood for a little experiment. Can I make people believe that the mental capabilities of those diagnosed with Aspergers and/or ADD are on par with others? By which I mean: people describing themselves as “normal” and are often looking down on me, for I have been diagnosed with Aspergers.
I’m getting tired of being mistaken for mentally retarded, unfunny,etc. Although I should probably admit to being mentally retarded. Because I have been so mentally retarded I didn’t even know I should be mentally retarded and incapable of anything. Therefore, I grew up to be an intelligent civilian instead that even contibutes to society from time to time . My bad, I will correct this grave mistake immediately. Have a nice day.