Comments on: Hip-Hop – Popularity Among 16 Year Olds v Quality

By: Joker

Joker — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:07:23 +0000

WIN

By: baller

baller — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:12:13 +0000

fort minor is part of linkin park- one of the most mainstream bands out there
The best verse I ever heard was in the cunninlynguists song love aint tonedeff’s verse at the start is the best i ever heard

By: Sam

Sam — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:49:58 +0000

listen to Fort Minor. its the best rap you will ever hear. although, not many people i know know about it

By: Nick

Nick — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:27:33 +0000

You took the words right out of my mouth. Good hip-hop – REAL hip-hop – can’t be found on the radio or in the mainstream. It’s all just turned into either modern R&B or just a bass line with mindless garbage on top of it.

I can’t respect mainstream rap and hip-hop because it has become a shell of its former self. All the lyrics these days are something like; “SHOHTAY, I TAKE U 2 DA CLUH, WE GET TIPSSAYY, WE HAVE SEX IN MY DUBBED OUT WHIP, WASH RINSE REPEAT.”

Real rappers and hip-hop artists put value behind their rhymes.

By: wildtiger444

wildtiger444 — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:02:44 +0000

agreed

By: wildtiger444

wildtiger444 — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:00:27 +0000

i’m 14 and i love this stuff. I don’t see how you guys can be so negative. I love older music, but new hip-hop isn’t ALL bad, just a lot of it…

By: wildtiger444

wildtiger444 — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:56:54 +0000

i love you too

By: wildtiger444

wildtiger444 — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:56:12 +0000

I hereby declare that you have FAILED!!!!!!!

By: Cookie

Cookie — Sat, 30 May 2009 20:57:15 +0000

Im 16 and im interested in 90’s hip hop/rap and hate the new stuff so you can stop being retarded and actually research rather than watching TRL and MTV you stupid dunce

By: anon

anon — Sat, 30 May 2009 03:22:29 +0000

the thing is, hip-hop never had any quality anyway….

By: mrah

mrah — Sun, 24 May 2009 12:55:33 +0000

Hear hear.

By: MikkieD

MikkieD — Sun, 17 May 2009 13:20:40 +0000

suck my throbbing erection.

By: MikkieD

MikkieD — Sun, 17 May 2009 13:20:06 +0000

pretty close to agreeing with that.

also, while he doesn’t really live by his motto’s, T.I’s “Live Your Life” has some really deep, meaningful lyrics.

By: MikkieD

MikkieD — Sun, 17 May 2009 13:16:49 +0000

just you.

fail.

By: MikkieD

MikkieD — Sun, 17 May 2009 13:14:11 +0000

You people are too simple-minded to understand a graph this obvious.

By: MikkieD

MikkieD — Sun, 17 May 2009 13:11:40 +0000

He didn’t say Popularity among LyssaLovett vs Quality.

Just because it doesn’t apply to YOU, doesn’t mean it’s not true.
Hip-Hop and Dance music have hit the mainstream scene because it is what 16 year old kids listen to.

Maybe think outside the box, and realise that the world doesn’t revolve around you.

While there is some good dance music, and some inspiring hip-hop lyrics, I would have to say old school rock is the best.

By: MikkieD

MikkieD — Sun, 17 May 2009 13:08:45 +0000

“attached videos”

lol.

fail.

By: L

Sun, 10 May 2009 23:43:42 +0000

Regardless of how you feel about hip hop, this graph is a fail! It’s mistitled. It should be “Hip Hop Popularity Among 16-year-olds and Quality versus decade”.

By: Ron

Ron — Sat, 09 May 2009 01:17:01 +0000

“Stone cold classic Hip- Hop albums released in 2004″

The College Dropout- Kanye West

By: Boosra

Boosra — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:27:36 +0000

Just as a demonstration of the graphs accuracy:

Stone cold classic Hip-Hop albums released in 1994:

Illmatic – Nas
Resurrection – Common
Tical – Method Man
Hard to Earn – Gangstarr
Ill Communication – Beastie Boys
The Sun Rises in the East – Jeru
Between a Rock and a Hard Place – Artifacts
Like it Should Be – Extra Prolific
Dare iz a Darkside – Redman
Do You Want More? – The Roots
6 Feet Deep – Grave Diggaz
Southernplayalistic..musik – Outkast

And probably a bunch of others I forgot.

Stone cold classic Hip- Hop albums released in 2004:

Ummmmmmmmmmm……………………..

By: Boosra

Boosra — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:08:15 +0000

Right. I figured the mid 70’s were as good a place as any to start, since its hard to say when the culture became recognisable “Hip-Hop”.

By: Boosra

Boosra — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:06:10 +0000

You got good taste. That Dead Prez song you quoted is a classic and relatively recent too.
Unfortunately its one of the exceptions which prove the rule.

The rest of their stuff simply doesn’t reach this standard. Back in 1993 there were whole albums of unmissable genius coming out every week. Nowadays we are lucky to get a decent highlight or two each year.

Not that there aren’t still good acts out there, but they are few and far between.

By: Boosra

Boosra — Fri, 08 May 2009 15:58:57 +0000

You sir, are a saint and a scholar.

By: Boosra

Boosra — Fri, 08 May 2009 15:57:54 +0000

Pfft. I like good Hip-Hop. Which is why I made this graph lamenting its demise.

By: James

James — Thu, 07 May 2009 22:09:51 +0000

LOL! This Graph is fail and so is Boosra who made this graph. Boosra is just a Troll who hates Hip-Hop. Boosra must be watching too much MTV and BET….. fail

By: Devylan

Devylan — Tue, 05 May 2009 18:48:31 +0000

you know!

By: J Dilla

J Dilla — Tue, 05 May 2009 18:45:55 +0000

raging fam… are you from eugene?

By: J Dilla

J Dilla — Tue, 05 May 2009 18:34:19 +0000

…and mos def should be listed at least 3 times

By: J Dilla

J Dilla — Tue, 05 May 2009 18:33:21 +0000

if i feel it i feel it,
if i don’t i don’t,
if it aint really real,
then i probably won’t…

thanks for helping school these web heads

By: ...

... — Tue, 05 May 2009 13:27:28 +0000

Good point. One person who doesn’t like hip hop means that humanity is doomed. Why didn’t I think of that?

By: Devylan

Devylan — Tue, 05 May 2009 13:16:49 +0000

yeah, i agree w/ soulisdaessence. “this is why [you're] hot.”

By: Bobbynoname

Bobbynoname — Mon, 04 May 2009 01:24:30 +0000

By: LoonieBin

LoonieBin — Sun, 03 May 2009 23:28:02 +0000

See where it goes down? Right after the Beastie Boys released “Intergalactic.” Nothing could hold up afterwards.

I actually kind of agree, but of course there has always been bad hip-hop and there is still good hip-hop (albeit not as much.) For a good modern MC, I suggest giving k-os a listen. Less f-bombs, more meaning.

Also, there wasn’t really a “first hip-hop album.” You can trace the evolution of the genre back to 1969 or so, and the roots go back even further (depending on what you believe.)

By: zzackcc

zzackcc — Sun, 03 May 2009 17:31:17 +0000

i would agree with this if it were ALL music, not just hip hop, since this is more or less the exact same for ALL music.

By: VurtualRuler98

VurtualRuler98 — Sun, 03 May 2009 03:06:11 +0000

Is it just me, or does this look like some stick-person dancing?

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sun, 03 May 2009 02:00:16 +0000

well I mean, that’s hard to determine though don’t you think? I mean, to determine the quantity of true hip hop and the mainstream scene requires a bit more research and indie dedication than whats being thrown at you on the radio. But also, personally…the best rhythm artists I think…Wu-Tang…the levels/beats that they used are incredible and still up to now very unique, but on the mainstream ear…hard to appreciate it. Also, one of the nastiest lyricist…Dr. Octagon, but again, his flow was kinda hard to follow…

but yes, Soulja Boy should is a disgrace to any music scene…although I think we’re being a little too harsh having him as the display of ALL mainstream hip hop. Like, Lil ‘Jon…perhaps not the most indepth character out there…but his beats and his aggressive demeanor/flow supplied an incredible attitude boost and kinda drove a new hip hop dance style onto the mainstream scene (Crumpin). So…I guess the point is…take it as it is and perhaps what’s not understood now will be understood later.

By: soulisdaessence

soulisdaessence — Sat, 02 May 2009 21:09:13 +0000

sigh…
I hope your happy
you just made me lose faith in humanity

By: soulisdaessence

soulisdaessence — Sat, 02 May 2009 21:07:35 +0000

I love you

By: soulisdaessence

soulisdaessence — Sat, 02 May 2009 21:06:00 +0000

your 13 you dont know what happened in the good old days with nwa, digable planets, eazy e, tribe called quest, raging fam, mecca and cl smooth
so dont criticize an entire genre because of the commercialized garbage this generation is feeding you

By: soulisdaessence

soulisdaessence — Sat, 02 May 2009 21:02:35 +0000

doesnt mos def still lay down tracks anyway?

By: soulisdaessence

soulisdaessence — Sat, 02 May 2009 21:01:39 +0000

respiration pwns theives in the night

By: soulisdaessence

soulisdaessence — Sat, 02 May 2009 21:00:48 +0000

exactly
all the real mcs are underground
I think this goes for all music
the only people who get record deals are the ones with the friends in the labels not necessarily talent

By: soulisdaessence

soulisdaessence — Sat, 02 May 2009 20:58:54 +0000

….
…….
you fail
buy a mos def album
and then beat your head in with it cause your a dumbass

By: Leary

Leary — Sat, 02 May 2009 17:48:32 +0000

Agreed.
Pretty much everything in the charts < Music.
So much of modern music is played on a keyboard or synth I can’t get into it, it’s just not real…

By: Kit

Kit — Sat, 02 May 2009 15:45:01 +0000

Ummm… you said Mos Def twice.
Just sayin’.
I find that you can almost divide it perfectly between what is TRUE hip-hop nowadays and what is just rap, which seems to largely be going for the same things as mainstream pop music: a pleasing rhythm and total lack of substance.

By: Your Mom

Your Mom — Sat, 02 May 2009 14:42:06 +0000

PS – what’s up with the 00’s? Couldn’t the author just have stated “Now”?

By: Your Mom

Your Mom — Sat, 02 May 2009 14:41:28 +0000

It actually is a little too much for a graph.

By: Your Mom

Your Mom — Sat, 02 May 2009 14:40:16 +0000

Granted, songs these days are not nearly as creative as they were in the 80’s. Welcome to the 21st century, my friend.

By: Czernobog

Czernobog — Sat, 02 May 2009 13:57:56 +0000

Hear hear!

There’s good hip-hop out there, it just isn’t mainstream hip-hop.

By: ll

ll — Sat, 02 May 2009 12:10:33 +0000

this graph is way to confusing.