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First time i’ve seen this idea used. I’ts and ok idea… oh yeah FIRST
*moves the apostrophe over to the right*
THEY’RE! Now IT’S fixed!
:p
*removes d*
Their you go.
ohh… now it makes more sense! thanx their!
you must be like a geek or something cause no one cares which there their uusing!!!!
believe it or not….a lot of people are judging the fact the you have no basic grammar skills
WHY THE HELL DOES THIS AUTOMATICALLY POST?!?!?!?!??!!?!?!?
the internets hate you?
wat r u talken bout
Employers in particular.
FYI, they all Google your known aliases prior to offering you employment.
i’d say it was intended ironically.
I’m guessing you’re one of those people, hence “their” instead of “they’re”. L2grammar please.
i noticed that too.
You must like ignorant or something because a lot of people care about having basic grammar skills.
By the way, their should be “they’re.”
You must lack a sense of humour of something because… never mind.
Actually, people do care. XD Don’t make yourself look too stupid. Btw, the graph is great and I’m one of the people between 12-20 who does it the right freakin’ way.
THIS
I didn’t know this was a constant.
THANK YOU!
ha ur a geek to just like the person who made this graph.. .
Let me fix this sentence of yours.
you’re*
too*
Well, I guess I’m a geek.
I mean, why would I ever care about something as stupid as BASIC GRAMMAR? Jeez. I’m just terrible.
The whole purpose of learning to write correctly is to make yourself understood. If you have poor grammar skills, it can be really difficult to figure out what you’re saying.
It’s the same thing with “you’re” and “your”. It’s so irritating!
Lolspeak is the solution.
ur. All fixed!
wow i didn’t know there was so many geeks in the world, etx.
I didn’t know there WERE so many geeks either, “ummm”!
I’d rather be a geek with BASIC grammar skills, than make myself look like I did not pass the third grade..
Geeks?
You mean people who type and write as if they have a basic grade-school education?
Yes, there are a lot of us. We do things like run businesses and design websites like this one. In NYC, they run the party scenes, too.
Some of the real hardcore geeks even work in Hollywood (like Vin Diesel, who plays Dungeons & Dragons with his buddies).
Honestly, mate, geeks run nearly everything. Being dumb isn’t considered cool anymore.
it’s all true! Some day us geeks will rule the world!
By the way, I’m 15 and I know how to spell, unlike pretty much all of the infantile “popular” kids in my school.
I hate “Txt tlk”.
I didn’t know there ARE so many geeks either, both of you.
Present Tense is always the best Tense. You know those old sayings.
-sighs and quietly bangs head against the wall, hoping to become as blissfully ignorant as ummm here, maybe just a fewww more brain cells and the pain will go away- YOU -bang- ARE -bang- STUPID -powpowpowpow-.
12-20? I’m in my third year of university and my prof just blew up at the class for this exact reason. You would think people would have, at least, learned how to use grammar check by now. :/
You’d think they wouldn’t have to by now…
Heh, I mizpelled Eighth. Duh! *Slaps self in forehead*
Not to mention the mistakes people make with “it’s” and “its”… [/grammar police]
(8) Ohhhh, if you want to be possessive, it’s just I-T-S, but if it’s supposed to be a contraction then it’s I-T-APOSTROPHE-ESSS!
(8)…SCALLYWAG!
Y-O-U-Rrrrr. Y-O-U apostraphe R-Eeeee. They’re as DIFFERENT as Night and Daaa-aaaay. Don’t you think night and day are diii-fferent.
What’s wrong with youuuu?
Strongbad ref FTW.
I think you might be awesome.
Or then and than.
YES!
Oh, so many pointing out the annoyances in typical grammar flaws..I love it! Again, I believe I learned all this in second or third grade..even if you didn’t pay attention, not hard to grasp.
Prolly an English teacher who hates that I just used prolly instead of probebly because I’m a freaking illiterate Hoosier (should that be capitalized?) middle school student who is, by the way, failing English. Thank you Mrs. K.
Hey kiddo, blaming your teacher says more about you than you realize. How about listening … doing your homework … caring about your education a little? Try it, you might actually learn something. Succeed, even. Whining about poor old Mrs. K. sure isn’t cutting it.
I’ve seen a few students fail and correctly blame it on the teacher. That very teacher almost died, but now she’s back. (I think I’d rather have a bitch teacher than the dude that took over for her. We’re all pretty sure he was a pedophile.)
*probably.
Again..this is too good.
..Hooked on Phonics, anyone??
Phonics doesn’t really work for English, though… I mean, “phonics” isn’t even phonetically spelled.
…Okay, that’s enough of that from me.
English would be a nightmare to learn as a second language. Least. Consistent. Spelling. Ever.
You probably use “prolly” because you can’t spell “probably” correctly.
that is probable
Or it could be a simplified spelling of regional pronunciation.
I type Oxford. I speak North Carolina.
seconded.
I’m perfectly capable of spelling it out, but “prolly” just seems significantly less stodgy. Of course, there’s a time and a place for everything and what works online doesn’t necessarily work elsewhere.
Yes, but you’re scottish so you have an excuse
THE ACCENTS!
And Hi AC! watcha doin off PK?
I actually use it all the time, just ’cause it’s shorter and for style. I have no qualms with people who deliberately misspell words to be cute or to put a little personality in their writing. I use “lolcat” a lot. What bugs me is when people don’t bother learning the difference.
Oh, and errors on business signs or other such things.
…who spelled ‘probably’ incorrectly.
I think it’s sad that native English speakers fail at their own language so often. Compared to other world languages, English isn’t a hard one!
Actually, multilingual people from other countries were polled on the difficulty of learning the other languages, and English won out. It’s not so much the rules as that the exceptions are used more often than the rule itself.
But no, it is NOT okay for native speakers of English to do so badly at it. I just makes us look stupid.
*It
Stupid tablet, gettin’ in my way… *grumblemutter*
do i know you? i’m in middle school, too, and my english teacher is a Mrs. K, too…
I live in CA–you?
S/he either meant Hoosier as in from Indiana or as the Missouri slang for redneck, so not likely.
There are lots of Mrs. Ks…
In regard to Missouri slang, hoosier actually refers to any uneducated and/or unrefined person, not just rednecks, the main exception being those with mental difficulties (retardation, brain injury, etc.).
Some people are so aggrivating. There vocabulary isn’t flawless like my.
You clever dog, you. I see what you did there.
I’m almost positive it is, but I’m too lazy to look it up –
House ref FTW!
hahaha you win
Buh-zing!!
Now their’s a good graph! Your right on the money with that one!
Its about time someone pointed that out!
Oh, the irony!
I’m guessing that you’ve gotten to the ‘thier/there/they’re’ part of second grade, but not yet reached the ‘you’re/your’ part…
their post was probably a joke. you know, sarcasm?
Also their, not thier….
I…I know.
My reply was–
haha, nevermind.
:]
And, sorry, typo; believe it or not, they happen.
(and I’m walking on air)
I’m Dutch and i can do it correctly
so get your grammar together people!
It’s my 5th language and EVEN I get it right. It’s Americans first and only (for the majority) and they can’t get it right. Why is that?
Brits are by far the worst grammar offenders, in my experience.
yeah…. they stick “u”s into words where “u”s have no business being, and don’t seem to get that “-ise” is actually spelled “-ize”
lol
Hey! Canadians do that to, eh.
I used to drive my English teacher crazy on our vocab tests by adding “u” and “ize” to certain words. I also spelled “license” “licence” to see if she actually read some of my assignments.
I had erasers thrown at me several times that year. Ah, the good old days!
speaking of to, too and two – those should also be added the graph.
I wondered if anyone would catch that one.
god, those two are the worst. i mean, i can understand if it’s a chat program and someone’s trying to type quickly, i wouldn’t mind if they used your just to save a key or two. but really? you can’t spell TOO? annoys the hell out of me
Did you forget that we got our language from the Brits? So… technically, we’re the ones who changed things…
Because learning the language from instruction teaches you more of the grammar rules and guidelines than learning by intuition, as English is NOT an intuitive language. Props for learning 5(or more?) languages. Wish I could say that; hell, I wish I could say I knew 2 languages, but alas, I cannot. Well, technically I can, but I would be lying. I digress…
DIE!
this is an ok graph but their are way better ones on heer
What really bugs me is when people use “myself” incorrectly — as a general rule, only use it when you’ve already said “I” in the sentence (generally as the direct object of the sentence, but not always).
Good example: I love myself.
BAD example: I, myself, am happy.
BAD example: Talk to Bob or myself if you have any questions.
People tend to use “myself” because they think it’s a formal version of “I” or “me.” It’s NOT.
(The following comment is actually relevant.)
Nice graph.
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?????
Profit!
Ah, a fellow Encylopedia Dramatica User!
Arrgh! Yes, that’s exactly it! When people want to be correct but have no clue how to do it . . . they tromp all over the language . . . for instance, misusing “whom” because they think it’s more “proper”. AHHHHHHHHHH! I want to choke people! [OK, maybe I should've become an English teacher, like my friend's nickname for me implies ::deep thought:: Nah, maybe not.]
And refusing to use “me” in a sentence, for fear of not using “I”.
And “different THAN.” Will all the gods please save me from “different THAN”?
I get very frustrated as well when people use improper grammar. Some examples are:
That’s between she and I.
I’m better then you.
Me and my friends are going to the movies.
Who did you see there? (Granted, the rules for proper usage of who and whom have changed gradually.)
One of the guys are going to help move my furniture.
Ending sentences in prepositions also annoys me at times.
I would never have made it as an English teacher. I would have either gone insane or slaughtered half the class.
You know, I can’t recall ever being taught how to use “who” and “whom.” It strikes me as one of those more antiquated rules that isn’t really important anymore, but I wouldn’t really know, LoL.
I think “your a idiot” is the best one.
I read a comment on youtube a little while ago that said, “your an idot.” The ‘idot’ couldn’t even spell idiot right. *sigh*
I’m only 22 and I feel old by saying this, but kids these days REALLY need to learn proper grammar. To use abbreviations in IM’s is one thing, but to not even know “they’re” vs. “there” or where an apostrophe goes by age 12 is just pathetic.
Unfortunately, It’s not just kids. There are plenty of adults who don’t know any better either. In fact, it’s not even a matter of education, it’s a matter of respect for the English Language and respecting yourself enough not to label yourself an idiot whenever having to write a sentence.
I love that the above comment comes from someone named “DangerFart” … it’s very reverse-Aristocrats!
” . . . not to label yourself an idiot . . . ”
That’s it! People have not “gotten it” when I’ve tried correcting their grammar: I’m not trying to be superior, or an asshole (and I don’t do this to random strangers–just family or close friends). I’m trying to help them present themselves well the next time!
“to not even know” should be “not even to know.” “To know” is an infinitive verb. Putting another word between them makes them a split infinitive. That’s very naughty!
So thats what a split infinitive is! Cool!
I need to take an English class, srsly. This is another thing I don’t think I was ever taught. Actually, I don’t really remember being taught much about writing structure since I was in Jr High…
I agree with this.
..I blame the interwebs! ..*ahem*, maybe I should have used “teh” instead, or “dis”… I hate texting the most:
“U goin with us, or r u stayin home”
..Why can’t people just use real words?
AGREED.
I am highly enthusiastic in my agreement, too.
I hate it when people won’t use the word “me” correctly.
“I’m glad they invited Jim and I”.
That’s like saying “I’m glad they invited I”.
uuuuuuuuuuuuuhmm…
Sorry, Marilyn,
>I< think you fail..
]:
No she doesn’t. She’s right.
Nope, she’s correct. Split the statement into its two components.
“I’m glad they invited Jim”
and
“I’m glad they invited me”.
So when it’s combined into a single phrase it becomes “I’m glad they invited Jim and me.”
In this specific example, Marilyn is correct. If the sentence had read something like, “Jim and I were invited” ‘I’ would have been correct.
Mmm..
I’m still not quite sure, I’m almost positve that ‘me’ should never be at the end of a sentence, but that ‘I’ should be used…
“I’m glad she invited Jim and me” doesn’t quite do it for me.
But, in retrospect, if I’m not sure, I shouldn’t post.
:/
no, they are correct. it’s “I’m glad she invited Jim and me” for the reasons stated above.
(trust me, I’m a graduating college student)
And no one is allowed to graduate if they don’t know that grammar rule?
Argh, my own sentence makes me sad, but I’m going to blame the English language and its lack of a gender-nonspecific singular pronoun. “S/he” is so awkward >:(
Randomly: I once had a high school English teacher return an essay with the comment “well structured but watch spelling and grammer”.
Silly tetra. Is ignorance really blissful? Tell me.
You may not be sure, but we are. It’s “me”.
If it were to be “I”, it should be, “I’m glad Jim and I were invited.”
But, alas, Marilyn didn’t write it out that way. Instead it’s, “I’m glad they invited Jim and me.”
At the end of a sentence, you use “me”. At the beginning, you use “I”.
May I recommend a couple of books for the grammar geek’s leisure reading…EATS, SHOOTS AND LEAVES and WOE IS I. If you like the graph, you’ll love the books.
I READ THAT BOOK!
Eats, shoots, and leaves, that is.
God, I really do love that book.
Especially the question mark chapter.
XD
And, fine, fine, you guys all win at the internet, and I fail.
Is douchebaggotry all it’s cracked up to be, silly RJ?
tetra, trust me. it’s all that and so, so much more. you wouldn’t even believe. although, you WERE wrong…. so i can’t really blame him for correcting you.
“Things That Make Us [sic]” is also worth a read.
“My Grammar and I” is a good read too
Here’s the basic rule of thumb, tetra:
If you can remove the other person’s name from the phrase and it makes sense, it’s likely correct. Yosh’s examples were a perfect illustration.
The way it was explained to me:
“They invited [Jim and] me.” If you take the part in brackets out, the rest should still sound right.
Another example:
“[Jim and] I went to the store.”
Does that help?
No fail. You fail. Marilyn is right, and it’s a little trick I was taught eons ago by a wonderful teacher: Divide the sentence so that it’s down to just one object, and you’ll see immediately which is appropriate. “I’m glad they invited me” is obviously right, and so “. . . Jim and me” is correct.
I don’t think anyone has ever pointed out poor grammar before… Good work.
Their, they’re, everything is going to be OK.
Their can haz cheezburger?
Whose can? I’ve never seen canned cheezburger before.
HAHA.
That made me laugh.
[their, they're, NOT the stupid cheezburger thing, btb]
ya, their are alot of stupid noobs out they’re who like to misuse there.
i just read someone say ‘there bad spellers.’
PS: I MEANT IT.
**splits ‘a’ and ‘lot’
Yes!
Oh man, someone I know wrote “apart of” (instead of “a part of”) and I thought it was a typo. Then she did it alot [sic] of times. She thinks it’s supposed to be written like that. ARGH!
Yeah, it’s apart FROM. Jeez, that’s pretty basic grammar.
you realize they were trying to say a part of, but combining a and part right? O.o as in “a piece of”?
Their their, I’m sure people will learn to use the proper there/their/they’re eventualy. You’re dream will come true.
The only thing that’s wrong with this is that the red slice should be almost non-existent. Otherwise, it’s just about right! Thank you for making this!
My favorite misuse of the spelling of a word that I’ve seen a bunch lately is “SATIN” – no, the people who I’ve seen typing this word on the internet are not talking about the silky smooth material used in garments – they are talking about Beelzebub, the Prince of Darkness, the devil, or the fallen angel that the rest of us refer to as SATAN. Man, there’s nothing more annoying than a Fundie who can’t spell
Apple?
Who says the silky smooth material used in garments isn’t Satan?
There, there; they’re going away with their hair over there.
The part of the graph for the correct use is still too large, need a smaller portion of the pie… about .5% would be right
My thought exactly.
I prefer a happy ”thar” once and again. As in, “whas that over thar?”
yeash, Typo freaks, oh my a typo must yell at the person that did that *starts typing*
We’re not typo freaks. We just appreciate proper use of the English language.
And here is a perfect example of another one that bothers me: who and that. You would yell at the person *who* did something.
My list of pet peeves includes, among others:
There/their/they’re
Your/you’re
Too/To
It’s/Its
Our/Are (yeah, believe it or not, my students somehow confuse this one!)
A little off-topic, but how about just pronouncing things plain wrong…ly?
.
E.g. “Our next pREformance will be in two weeks’ time at [venue],”* and “Can we use some of their pREcussion instruments?”** and “I don’t know; I’ll ARKS them.”***
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* from my former orchestra conductor
** from our lead percussionist
*** from the orchestra’s former president
Americans who think British people or Canadians “insert u’s” into words where they don’t belong should go back and check where the language came from. It’s called ENGLISH for a reason. The u’s have not been INSERTED, but rather have been REMOVED by Americans. You may think that the letter is unnecessary in that particular word, but check out about a thousand other words with unnecessary letters. Knock? Knife? Pneumonia? Just bastardize the language a little more and take out all the unnecessary letters.
did you have a troubled childhood?
As a Canadian, I say Donovan = WIN.
Um, I think the person who made the comment about the “u”s was being sarcastic.
Bloody Brits – acting as if they owned the language or something…
i like you much more now that i’m 100% that you were being sarcastic
(psst… ten points to you, srab – you’re right!)
Oh joy. Grammar Nazi does GraphJam. ¬¬
im not but i saw this kid who’s graph said ” THERE parents” and misused their,etc like 4 times…so it inspired this graph. :p
Thei’r*
LOL, that’s an awesome word – I need to find a use for it somewhere!
whose?
Don’t recall the kid’s name. The graph was about teen cell phone usage. I think it was called “how teens use there cell phones”
One part was “Texting there bf/gf”
Good luck finding it. Sorry. =]
But how is it being a Grammar Nazi? This is *basic* English. Being a Grammar Nazi is saying things like “it should be ‘you and I’ and not ‘you and me’”… things like that. Not basic SPELLING errors!
I would have thought the red would be MUCH smaller.
Win on account of there clearly being passion behind the graph.
Oh my. Thank you. =]
Someone actually left a comment…judging the graph instead of fighting over idiotic pish posh!
Ur juss wunderful. see ppl? there so nice.
Most of these graphs are to provoke thought and therefore conversation, so it’s fairly obvious most of the comments are going to be discussing the issue that you raise with the graph. Not sure why you expect to be complimented on it directly – it should be a compliment that people find it a point to discuss.
Personally, I could care less. If I can understand whats being said, I don’t care if its “there”, “they’re”, or “their”.
If this was a essay for a class, yeah, but this is a message board where we are not being graded. As long as the message doesn’t look like some damn “txt mesge”, or it looks like nothing more than random pounding of a keyboard, I wont pounce on someone misspelling or misusing a word.
The thing is, the “internet generation” do not differentiate between the message boards/IM/Chat rooms and essays/assignments they turn into their English teachers. And clear communication, no mater where you happen to be, IS important. It also gives the impression that you are less educated than you may actually be. For example, it is common business practice to toss resumes that have spelling and grammatical errors without any pause given to the skills of the candidate.
While I generally avoid being a “grammar nazi”, I nonetheless do see great value in proper written communication. Others should too. Besides, as has been pointed out before on this thread, English is a difficult enough language to learn without having to try and navigate poor language skills of the native speakers.
Great post and observations, I totally agree.
i differentiate very much, thank you, and i’m 16- young enough, i think, to be considered part of the “internet generation”, along with the fact that i am an avid gamer/humor site enthusiast/person who generally does anything fun that comes up over the internet while spending way too much time on it. i don’t capitalize my letters here, and i don’t triple-check my grammar, but i don’t screw up any basic English grammar. on papers and assignments, however, there’s a completely different story between how i write to my friends on IM, and any fast-paced chat, vs. how i type and speak to my teachers or write anything remotely formal, even an email. Txtspeech? hell no. i’d never do that. it HURTS.
Glad you could care less, scott, because that means you do care at least a little bit
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When did the saying get bastardised from “couldn’t care less”?
This right here is a definate “win”, (<- How is that supposed to work?)to borrow from a site I’m sure you all enjoy as well.
Huge pet peeve of mine, the average youth of America is growing up ignorant and, dare I say it; stupid. With no desire to learn how to do things properly.
-hugs-
i know, i’m 16 and feel like i live in a world of idiots. it’s extremely scary, and Idiocracy (the movie) is actually getting kind of frightening, at this point, with the way people disrespect our language with the goddamn txtspeech. i mean, i’m not going to spend every second going over my posts, or waste a second capitalizing at the start of everrryyy sentence (i type FARRR too much for that), but really, it’s getting to the point of extreme stupidity… on the bright side, we’re not all like that!
Being Italian my first language, I perfectly learned the right way to use them, I know exactly which one is which. It’s so annoying to see that people whose first language is English alway mistake them.
…. no comment.
…tell me that grammar-slaughter was intentional and I’ll drop the gun.
This graph hurts to read… My mind hurts just thinking about it… It is not that hard!!!
Making typos in such easy language as English is pathetic, if it’s your first language.
I’m Polish, I’m 11, and I know English mainly from games and Internet. AND I FUC***G KNOW WHERE TO PUT THEIR/THERE/WHATEVER ELSE.
This graph is win.
It’s so nice to know there are so many other Grammar Nazis out there and it’s not just me. My husband gives me a hard time about it (mostly because he’s guilty of all the your/you’re, their/there/they’re, too/to, our/are mix-ups), but that stuff drives me bonkers. It’s BASIC English. It shouldn’t be that difficult. It makes me think the movie “Idiocracy” will actually come true some day and it makes me sad…
Oh, and I hate hate hate it when people spell definitely “definately”…
Better than “defiantly”. What is it with mixing up the ends of words? I felt deeply uneasy when I saw, on Yahoo! Answers, a question along the lines of “how do i no if im pregnate?” Great, so the kids are failing at both sex ed and English :S
There sow true. They’re is a grate graph. People who dew that our dumb.
Here’s one I hate – “stationery” and “stationary”. I used to work for a retailer buying stationery and you would be surprised how many suppliers of stationery can’t even spell it…
Oh? Suppliers of pen’s and pencil’s?
Hehe – now I want to start a company called “Dynamic Stationery”
OH YEAH! And it’s not really written grammar but more spoken. Many people in England actually say “should of” instead of “should have” – then they also write it. WHY? What does “should of” mean? IT MEANS NOTHING!
Also things like “sumfink” instead of “something”…
A lot of people in Australia say “should/would/could of” too. I hear a lot of bastardised sayings like “nip it in the butt” and “for all intensive purposes”… We don’t seem keen to pay attention to what we’re saying, and whether it makes sense or not…
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Pronunciations like “sumfink” and “two hunret dollars” are just weird :S
LOL, “for all intensive purposes” … grammatically poor, but HILARIOUS!
“nip it in the butt” is pretty funny too… we’ve gone from a*se-kissing to a*se-biting!
When you say “should’ve,” that’s a perfectly acceptable (if slightly irregular) contraction. Actually writing “should of,” on the other hand, is plain stupid.
their/there/they’re being used the wrong way = eyeballs on fire
lol this is so right.
I see what you did their.
QUIT YOUR BITCHING
Nails on a chalkboard. Dx
FREAKING/FREAKIN’*
Proud member of the Grammar Nazi squad.