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First First !!
wtfs the point of going “FIRST”
I think we can all obviously see you’re first.
Retard.
Funny graph by the way.
i can believe of some reasons for the “First”-Postings:
* A minority complex must be compensated
* they allways have to be in the middle of everything
* They need a reason to be proud of themselves
* Reloading the page every 5 secounds is a hard job – they only want to be rewarded with greetings etc.
and, of course:
* sometimes they really ARE the first
* To watch people whine about it
I don’t understand why OSX would be better for hacking than windows….
Probably because it’s based on BSD and is easier to port tools over to it from *nix based systems. Like, for instance, Leopard uses the Bash terminal.
OSX is better for “doing” hacking – that’s what the graph means.
Windows is better for hacking “into” – that should have been another column, but is pretty obvious, yes?
Lawl
I do believe that Vista has actually tested as being more resistant to
hacking than Leopard.
Right. That is why IE was declared so unsecure by Microsoft that customers should seek out other browsers….and unlike Macs the browser is a fundamental unit of the OS
I guarantee you that Microsoft never told their own users to seek other browsers. Quit making stuff up, doesn’t make someone smart. Secondly, IE isn’t that unsecure, I’ve never had a single problem with it. So unless you feel like backing up your claims, don’t bother talking at all.
And Scott, I loved the last comment you made. It’s true, it’s soo true…
LMAO
* They are idiots (http://graphjam.com/2008/10/28/song-chart-memes-first-in-the-comments/)
First . true dat
Good job, man! Keep up the good work!
May your troll-ness burn in hell.
Bleh, one of the worst experiences of my life was video editing on OS X. Mac advertises that it doesn’t get those “cryptic, unintelligible error messages” that Windows gets – it’s true, it just locks up and doesn’t do… anything. Spot-on otherwise though.
On the contrary, I like editing on OS X. But this chart doesn’t account for the video editing software my brother is developing for Linux.
Not spot on.
Windows never actually runs games, it just pretends too then crashes before the big save point.
Maybe if you’re running a ‘98 box raped by spyware.
No, Windows runs games great… it’s your slow ass computer that doesn’t.
Yeah but what about DOS ?
Playing games – 40%
Hacking – 90%
Video Production – 0%
Watching pr0n – 0%
The creater cleverly omitted that. hmmm.
Might not know what DOS is
True Dat.
Disk Operating System? A. Wouldn’t have fit on the chart B. Its not the point of the chart.
Windows isn’t suitable for watching porn secretly since it has no virtual Desktops out of the box.
Also, Windows gets STDs from porn. Unix based systems do not.
Windows gets diseases from almost anything (some even say windows is a disease itself)
If you have a good graphics card it does. But then you’d actually have to know something about computers.
It’s pretty funny, the only thing really wrong with this graph is that contrary to popular belief, Macs have no advantage over PCs for video production.
Why is osx beating windows on hacking? That doesn’t make any sense.
Probably because the newest versions of Mac’s OS are bastardizations of *nix now. The real question is why Mac>Linux for gaming when there’s Windows emulation on Linux.
Because that same Windows emulation exists on MacOS (Crossover, Darwine, etc), and there are more commercial games for native MacOS than Linux, though not as many as for Windows. Its accurate enough.
And as to a previous comment calling MacOS a “bastardization” of “*nix”. This shows a general level of ignorance as to what constitutes a Unix variant. Posix compliancy being one of the main metersticks, which Unix, FreeBSD, Linux and MacOS (among others) currently meets.
Man, screw running things natively. I run games at twice the fps under WINE than I do natively on my XP partition (which is gone now, thankfully).
But WINE isn’t perfect. It won’t run all games.
how do you breath .. ?
*hic*
The Mac OS is standard Free BSD running under a Proprietary GUI. It’s standards based, not bastardization of anything.
Windows on the other hand is 100% Proprietary.
I completely agree. The same virtue that makes Macs virus-free (fewer users, fewer people writing code) also makes for fewer hacks.
Ever try getting key generators for Mac software? Much harder… not that I’d EVER do something like that…
It appears you only think the graph is wrong because you don’t entirely understand what hacking is.
True.
Is there a graph for “Percentage of people who confuse ‘Cracking’ for ‘Hacking’”?
No?…. *Makes*
~Tim
OSX FAIL
Windows FAIL
Linux FTW !
At least you spelled Winodws right. They should have added vista with playing games at about 75%.
God, I didn’t lol.
I run Vista and haven’t had any problems. (Most of my games are from Steam, but if you really do have problems, run them in XP Compatibility mode. If XP runs them better, you should have no problem at that point. Unless you don’t know how to run it that way.)
I ran vista for a while. I’m into classics like Tribes (requires a hacked exe) and most DOS games need an emulator called DOSBox. It sucked going through a command line every time I wanted to play Doom.
You didn’t…
COMPUTERS FAIL.
ALL TECHNOLOGY FTL.
Said he/she using the internet and therfore using technology. Hypocrisy fail.
*Mind Melds the next post to this board*
*points at nanotechnology*
I will turn that into something that will go to your house, and eat your children.
And wife.
And family.
Goodbye, and welcome to Grey Goo.
~Tim
All operating systems suck. Occasionally, I wish computers were never invented.
Linux: nothing works, but at least it’s possible to find out why.
Windows: usually works, but when something goes wrong, you’re screwed.
Mac: usually works, but only because it’s not really possible to do much with it.
n00b
lol… nothing works
*you’re doing it wrong
Whaaaaa? My home computer is linux and works flawlessly. My work computer is windows and I spend more time killing frozen applications and rebooting than actually working. Mac…never really used.
Linux isn’t hard, it just makes the (possibly unfair) assumption that you’re not an idiot.
And yet, the fact that you have that many issues running Windows tells me you’re an idiot…
Someone hasn’t spent much time doing video editing. At this stage I’m more comfortable on XP than OSX.
Then you’ve never experienced Final Cut pro kid.
Yeah, it’s too bad no other professional-grade video editing software exists besides Final Cut Pro.
Oh wait.
Of course I have. I’ll stick to Premiere/After Effects, cheers.
All Adobe products are on Mac too.
~Tim
I prefer Final Cut Studio on a Mac Pro for editing, but I do my Adobe After Effects work on a souped up custom windows machine.
I found the Mac version of AE a little too flaky, and maybe I could have fixed it, but not when clients are waiting. Which is always.
And Linux has some good programs to offer, too. Kino and Cinepaint and such aren’t too shabby. Plus they’re free. Open source rocks.
Linux is amazing. It’s just too bad they’ll never hit prime time. The problem with Linux is that there is no, and can be no visionary leader. Microsoft and Apple have provided consistent GUIs and their users know what to expect. Linux has no Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. If someone stepped into that role, he/she would piss people and “Fork” the project.
Open Source is great for embedded systems and some netbooks, and hackers/admin people. But never prime time.
OTOH Apple has benefited and helped the open source community with their Open Source/Proprietary hybrid
…and ironically, atm Windows has no Bill Gates and Apple has no Steve Jobs!
The thing is tho, Linux has the potential to gain tons of users who are disgruntled with the win/apple systems. IMO Linux doesn’t need a leader, just a rebranding from ‘geek friendly’ to ‘gramma friendly’ (but still with the cool geeky stuff for those brave enough).
It’s called Ubuntu (or Kubutnu)… Now with improved Gramma friendliness, same old geeky goodness…
Maybe it means “hacking” as in the ability to hack the OS itself, rather than to use it for hacking the internet?
If you have to worry about malware on your OS, it’s not good enough for porn. I say Windows scores a 50% on that one. Also, Linux is a lot closer for gaming to OSX than the graph indicates. We have several games that OSX does not, due to various developers who don’t give a crap about OS’es that are thoroughly incapable of running on their hardware.
Plus, most mac users don’t know what WINE is; the next Ubuntu (Jaunty) INCLUDES WINE in main and will run Windows apps very nearly out of the box (security warning followed by automatic WINE installation). At that point, Ubuntu will simply be better for gaming than OSX.
Usability is only one facet of operating systems. When you work in security, out of the box functionality, and general hardware support, Ubuntu is the only one left standing.
The point of the graph (the punchline) was the part about porn anyway, lol. That was supposed to be the focus.
That’s cool about the next Ubuntu, though. I’m looking into it now.
A friend of mine thought he had buggered his OS(Win XP) on his laptop, and wanted me to fix it. Windows stopped recognising his keyboard and touchpad(a bug w/his particular system). So I threw on Ubuntu 8.10. The guy has zero computer savvy. *Had*, rather. Him and his kid have taken to Ubuntu like a fish to water. They had a problem with a mobile modem logging on; and managed to fix it themselves.
well said.
i haven’t read a single ‘pron’. does that mean this intentional-misspelling meme (for this particular word) is finally passe? about fvcking time.
Look at the comment made by ‘bewbs’ which is the third un-nested comment down. He/she uses the term ‘pr0n.’
I was under the impression that the use of the pr0n mispelling was to avoid getting otherwise innocent sites blocked by over-critical firewalls. Am I mistaken?
Except with Microsoft Office. Then, the hate level is truly acceptable because of it trying to autoformat everything.
I have no idea how to work Linux, I’ve never worked with it, but I like Mac OS X and am actually pretty impressed by Vista over XP.
Erm… Vista is a *massive* fail. Many are going back to XP simply because Vista isn’t better than XP, though I have to say that it does looks nicer.
Anyway, I have used apple, and I found it’s working to be illogical, though I do like the fact that many shops allow you to use “Notebooks” with Ruby or Perl installed…
@MoshBat: “and I found itโs working to be illogical”.
You found it’s logic not the same as your logic? ‘cos you’re used to XP? Hmm.
I was a windows user since I was 7. Last year I bought a Mac.
I’ve loved it ever since, although I keep my PC Desktop still for the games.
Oh, and the blue nightlight
I’ve found with Apple products, you’ve actually got to think to solve problems with it,
Instead of just getting the “computer guy” (Me, in my community) to fix it, ‘cos whatever you do, it just fails.
I mainly changed to Mac BECAUSE of Vista coming out.
I anticipated everything changing to only Vista compatible, and nothing working o my XP any more.
Boy was I wrong. Turns out the smart people hate Vista too!
Bais. I’m doing it right.
~Tim
further proof that…
The internet is for Porn, porn. The internet is for Porn. /sing
hahaha.
I’m surprised that no one else got this before me. This has been up all day!
‘crack – gain unauthorized access computers with malicious intentions; “she cracked my password”; “crack a safe” ‘ All operating systems store the encrypted password in one place. Everything is crackable.
And hacking defined as it is an the law: Unauthorised attempts to bypass a computer security system.
True, but not funny.
Funny, but not true.
I agree with Ethana2.
Death to Destin.
~Tim
For an intermediate computer user, this graph is awesome. Well done, whoever created it.
Thank you, the first non over critical positive comment
>Windows is Crackable. Macs are not.
Oh dear. Someone doesn’t have a basic grasp of computing.
Well, these three colours form the romanian flag..
Wow, must say that is a well done graph. Sweet deal, pretty freaking accurate.
thank you
i’ve actually had better luck video/photo/illustration with Windows than OsX.
n00b
I have linux on my main pc, theres plenty of video editing suites for it. and plenty of opensource games (Tremulous anyone?) I’ve even got steam running on my linux box! on the other hand I also have a windows xp laptop. I use this mostly for gaming just because hardware wise its more powerful. I won’t comment on a mac because I’ve only used them a few times and didn’t really see anything special about it.
Also I don’t want to buy the apple brand, I’m (note the I’m and not the you’re) better off building a linux box than I am buying an expensive Macintosh computer. I also tried vista a few times but I found it to not give me the same freedoms XP did, and it has a hell of a lot of features (that I cannot disable) I’ll never use. I also believe vista is very cluttered.
This Chart Sux!!!111one one LOLOLOLOLOLLLOLL
well, now microsoft need porn expert, not usability gurus anymore, to beat linux and OSX
lol super porn
Windows: assumes you are completely retarded, tells you what to do, and doesn’t tell you how to do it.
*nix: is completely retarded, can’t do anything at all without exact commands and perfect coding, assumes you are a genius.
OSX: looks pretty, does other pretty-looking things.
Actually windows doesn’t assume you’re retarded. It tells you what to do and expects you to understand. Linux doesn’t even tell you what to do because it assumes you’re smart enough to figure it out on your own. OSX app designers often complain about how much time they have to spend dumbing down applications and making things shine and move even when they aren’t doing anything to keep the attention of the average mac buyer. Ease of use definitely leans towards mac but that’s because linux is basically hunt the animal butcher it and then cook it yourself. Windows is microwav your own burrito and mac is being fed jello by a kindly elderly nurse who’ll wipe your chin when you dribble.
i loved that comment above. Mac and Linux are way better for watching pr0n. Unless while you are watching porn you are installing windows again on another machine to actually finish watching that asian video. Also, linux does not sux at video editing. Did you know that Wall-e was made in linux?
Hey the last one is almost the flag of republican Spain during the Spanish Civil war! Jesus I need to get out more.
We’ll always be first. We’ll always say that we’re first.
We are Anonymous, We are Legion
For once I wish Mac users would just own up and admit why they use a machine
with ridiculous markup and proprietary parts.
Because they look cool in Starbucks writing their screen plays and STICKING IT
TO BIG EVIL MICROSOFT.
Windows is not good at hacking because its user-friendliness.
Linux is best at watching porn because there is no parental control.
ok, i agree that linux is the best for hacking.
but let me give you 3 REASONS why windows rapes mac in the hacking section
#1. Cain and Abel
#2. CMD > Terminal
#3. ophCrack
now 3 reasons why windows gets raped by linux
#1. WAY EASIER TO WRITE CODE (ex: perl, ruby, python ect.)
#2. dosent crash while you are trying to write a script, and you get halfway through it and you haven’t saved…
#3. open source programs like metasploit, SATAN, SARA, and ettercap run faster and (in my opinion) are more effective on linux
Wrong, asshat… Macs are just as easy to crack a Mac as it is to crack a PC. The reason they aren’t cracked as often is because there isn’t enough valuable information to be gleaned from doing so for there to be a reasonable ROI. If ever Apple gained the current level of popularity with the general populace which PCs currently enjoy, Mac will be just as plagued with malware and hackers/crackers as Windows. The inevitable will then occur; both Windows and Macintosh will crumble under the general superiority of user-friendly Linux distros, such as Ubuntu, and both will receive federal bailout money from King Obama, i meant President Lenin… Damn Freudian slips.
Huzzah for communism!!
WTF? Why is mac better a playing videogames than linux? And mac better at hacking than windows? And the video production does mostly rely on the program u use, not that much at the OS.
B.T.W. Not funny
Actually, linux is slightly less effective for porn viewing, as its compatibility with flash is somewhat lacking.