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Yay!
So not true.
You’ve obviously been out of school for the past twenty years.
Indeed so not true.
WRONG
This might be true if you work at McDonalds…..
doesn’t the cashier at McD’s have to know numbers?
How to count, yes. How to do algebra, no.
Hell, most cash registers make change for you–you don’t even have to know how to add and subtract!
Yes but they can’t count usually. That is why when I order a #1 which consists of a sandwich (Big Mac) fries and a Coke they screw something up. It’s pretty simple math not mastered by the minimum wage teenager.
Well, of course he does, he’s forgotten too much math to get a more interesting job!
Really not true if you work in a statistics/math field (duh)
Like me! (I’m a biostatistician)
Actuarial Analyst (better known as “number gopher”). I stare at spreadsheets full of numbers needing calculations all day!
I will tell my kids that what they are learning in school may never pop up in their future careers, but that the ability to take in novel information, process it, and work with it is a valuable skill that any employer will look for.
..and then you hope they can put one and one together.
The owner of a company I used to work for was interviewing a controller candidate -
Owner: How much is one plus one?
Interviewee: How much do you want it to be?
That’s beautiful. Plus, if they put forth the effort to do well in their worst subject, that shows perseverance, which is another valuable job skill.
Right! I tell my kids that you “learn how to learn” even when its a something you might never use later in life. You also learn your likes and dislikes and what abilities you have or don’t have.
“What did you learn in math this year?” “That I don’t want to work in a field that relies heavily on math.” (except not me… I liked math and use it all the time in my job.)
Physics and Graphics programmers: Disregard this graph.
People suffer from the delusion that arithmetic/geometry/trig/calculus are the only representations of math. REAL math is used every day by millions of people, regardless of whether or not they know it.
‘Mathematics is the academic discipline, and its supporting body of knowledge, that involves the study of such concepts as quantity, structure, space and change. The mathematician Benjamin Peirce called it “the science that draws necessary conclusions”. Other practitioners of mathematics maintain that mathematics is the science of pattern, and that mathematicians seek out patterns whether found in numbers, space, science, computers, imaginary abstractions, or elsewhere. Mathematicians explore such concepts, aiming to formulate new conjectures and establish their truth by rigorous deduction from appropriately chosen axioms and definitions.’
Singing it like you mean it, win for Chelle!
Awesome post! Very true. Plus, a mathematician will never go unemployed. Why? In most cases it’s not because they know how to solve Partial Differential Equations but because they know how to attack a problem and not give up until they’ve solved it.
I absolutely agree. Sadly none of what you are mentioning was tought or even appreciated in the school I went to, so as far as I am concerned, the graph is pretty accurate, even if I work with numbers all of the time.
I use math a lot more than I thought I would and I’m a social worker.
Statistics suck donkey balls
I try to recruit Americans, but this is why I end up hiring 70% foreigners on H1B visas – they treat math seriously
Although I hate math and used to think the way the graph states, I have to say it’s just not true. I was a mechanic for ten years, and even though I can’t do proofs I used trigonometry every time I did alignments. I have to constantly figure volume, area and conversions as a retail manager for auto parts. And it’s not just parts that requires it. I’m a History teacher too. (Yeah, I got two careers at the moment, neither teaching or retail can pay the bills alone!) I have to use algebra all the time to work out schedules for things (employee work schedules and student conferencing), and I have to use logic and flow charts for all sorts of stuff in every thing I do.
Yeah, I agree with hating math, but it’s far more necessary than we like to believe.
Its pretty true really. Most of the stuff they teach you, you will not need in the long run.
When I was studying mathematics we suffered no delusions that it would ever be applicable in real life. Unless we got taken through a Stargate and the ability to calculate the volume of a circular granary in hieroglyphs could save us all.
We also got taught how to do maths in cuneiform and how to optimise the arrangement of songs on a Madonna album.
To do the teachers and lecturers credit though, they never said it would be applicable, so I think this graph is wrong.
I’m out.
ever want to have a job in business? science? computers? medicine?
who wrote this?
Amount you will need should be higher. Also, amount you will need plus amount you will forget REALLY needs to be greater than 100%.
There should be a fourth bar labeled “chance that the math you forget is the math you will need to know” 100%
Your math teachers are trying to prepare you in case you ever really do have to use major math in your job.
not math so much as geometry
Eh, as a programmer I rarely do basic math – like long division, etc – the “hard” way, as that’s what the computer is for. However, understanding concepts like algebra, calculus, geometry et al is very important.
Luckily, I do *not* have to deal with statistics very often, though I know some people (such as those who’ve commented here) love the heck out of it.
But yes, as Mike mentioned, learning to learn (and staying in practice – by continuing to learn!) is probably your best bet no matter what field you’re in.
A Venn Diagram could have best represented this one.