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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-91093</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reason #291 why it sucks ass to be a web developer.</description>
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		<title>By: j000</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-68961</link>
		<dc:creator>j000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathon</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-52975</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm...debugging FOR IE, not in it.  Less helpful error messages you couldn&#039;t imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm&#8230;debugging FOR IE, not in it.  Less helpful error messages you couldn&#8217;t imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-51809</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eww. I wouldn&#039;t write in notepad; I write code for a web page, but I use a colored-type editor. It&#039;s got all the freedom of notepad, but it tells you whether you&#039;re screwing up (like forgetting to close a tag or something)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eww. I wouldn&#8217;t write in notepad; I write code for a web page, but I use a colored-type editor. It&#8217;s got all the freedom of notepad, but it tells you whether you&#8217;re screwing up (like forgetting to close a tag or something)</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-49868</link>
		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 14:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Use a butterfly: http://xkcd.com/378/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use a butterfly: <a href="http://xkcd.com/378/" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/378/</a></p>
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		<title>By: SpaceMan</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-39055</link>
		<dc:creator>SpaceMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why IE is most-used</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why IE is most-used</p>
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		<title>By: anderswc</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-13301</link>
		<dc:creator>anderswc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VIM&#039;s hard core and awesome!

I use Eclipse PDT for my development though. It doesn&#039;t &quot;do&quot; anything for you, but it&#039;s got syntax highlighting and it has some error checking as well.

Funny how a discussion of &quot;which browser sucks&quot; became &quot;which editor is best&quot; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VIM&#8217;s hard core and awesome!</p>
<p>I use Eclipse PDT for my development though. It doesn&#8217;t &#8220;do&#8221; anything for you, but it&#8217;s got syntax highlighting and it has some error checking as well.</p>
<p>Funny how a discussion of &#8220;which browser sucks&#8221; became &#8220;which editor is best&#8221; <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: yeti_6</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9297</link>
		<dc:creator>yeti_6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I write my code in notepad so phbbbbt :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I write my code in notepad so phbbbbt <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: foxydot</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9290</link>
		<dc:creator>foxydot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VIM FTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VIM FTW.</p>
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		<title>By: caghs</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9176</link>
		<dc:creator>caghs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh really *notes your ridiculous elitist opinion and goes back to what she loves*

Did it ever occur to you that you can code without a compiler?  I doubt anyonewho regularly codes in JavaScript or Perl, etc, would say &quot;hey, no, I don&#039;t use a ciompiler and therefore I&#039;m not a coder?&quot;

My brother and I work together.  He does the compiling side and I do the web side.  And although he is of a level that he was teaching his lecturers at Uni, he&#039;s never looked down his nose at me as a &#039;mere web designer&#039;.  And for good reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh really *notes your ridiculous elitist opinion and goes back to what she loves*</p>
<p>Did it ever occur to you that you can code without a compiler?  I doubt anyonewho regularly codes in JavaScript or Perl, etc, would say &#8220;hey, no, I don&#8217;t use a ciompiler and therefore I&#8217;m not a coder?&#8221;</p>
<p>My brother and I work together.  He does the compiling side and I do the web side.  And although he is of a level that he was teaching his lecturers at Uni, he&#8217;s never looked down his nose at me as a &#8216;mere web designer&#8217;.  And for good reason.</p>
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		<title>By: mordof</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9170</link>
		<dc:creator>mordof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol !!! notepad is a little extreme.. i use texpad. plain text editor but with syntax highlighting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol !!! notepad is a little extreme.. i use texpad. plain text editor but with syntax highlighting</p>
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		<title>By: weqo</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9125</link>
		<dc:creator>weqo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Learning how to do hacks from scratch has nothing to do with &#039;knowing how to code&#039;. That&#039;s called voodoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Learning how to do hacks from scratch has nothing to do with &#8216;knowing how to code&#8217;. That&#8217;s called voodoo.</p>
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		<title>By: teh_n1gz</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9124</link>
		<dc:creator>teh_n1gz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dome something similar at work at the moment, internal tool does not play well with IE, so it is now banned XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dome something similar at work at the moment, internal tool does not play well with IE, so it is now banned XD</p>
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		<title>By: caghs</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9123</link>
		<dc:creator>caghs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh.  That&#039;s a different kettle of fish.  I thought you meant your garden-variety I&#039;m-paying-you-to-get-it-all-working-to-my-satisfaction totally ignorant customer o.O

I have OCD, I can understand how frustrating it is for you AND her.  Sadly, there&#039;s no quick-fix for this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh.  That&#8217;s a different kettle of fish.  I thought you meant your garden-variety I&#8217;m-paying-you-to-get-it-all-working-to-my-satisfaction totally ignorant customer o.O</p>
<p>I have OCD, I can understand how frustrating it is for you AND her.  Sadly, there&#8217;s no quick-fix for this one.</p>
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		<title>By: cindymay04</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9115</link>
		<dc:creator>cindymay04</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only reason and logic worked on people with OCD, the type of OCD where she wants to call it CDO so it&#039;s in alphabetical order. I&#039;m serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only reason and logic worked on people with OCD, the type of OCD where she wants to call it CDO so it&#8217;s in alphabetical order. I&#8217;m serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Dexaan</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9105</link>
		<dc:creator>Dexaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50% IE users.  30% FF users.  20% &quot;Other&quot;.   Oh, and one guy on WebTV, but I banned him, because seriously, wtf, WebTV?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50% IE users.  30% FF users.  20% &#8220;Other&#8221;.   Oh, and one guy on WebTV, but I banned him, because seriously, wtf, WebTV?</p>
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		<title>By: caghs</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9096</link>
		<dc:creator>caghs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this situation, I&#039;d be tempted to sit them down for a brief one on one basic HTML lesson ;)  I reckon ten minutes would do the trick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this situation, I&#8217;d be tempted to sit them down for a brief one on one basic HTML lesson <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   I reckon ten minutes would do the trick!</p>
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		<title>By: caghs</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9095</link>
		<dc:creator>caghs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s because I&#039;ve all but given up on IE, and only do the compatibilities that are absolutely necessary ;)

When I started, the choices were basically IE4 or Netscape (can&#039;t remember the version ...) and the two were highly incompatible.  Now I code for Firefox and throw in fixes as needed for anything else.  IE, to me, is for people that don&#039;t know any better *ducks*

That said, yes, I saw the funny side of this one :D  (it just bothers me when people who program using C++ or whatever look down their noses at us web designers)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because I&#8217;ve all but given up on IE, and only do the compatibilities that are absolutely necessary <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>When I started, the choices were basically IE4 or Netscape (can&#8217;t remember the version &#8230;) and the two were highly incompatible.  Now I code for Firefox and throw in fixes as needed for anything else.  IE, to me, is for people that don&#8217;t know any better *ducks*</p>
<p>That said, yes, I saw the funny side of this one <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   (it just bothers me when people who program using C++ or whatever look down their noses at us web designers)</p>
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		<title>By: Psychoceramics</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9087</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychoceramics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny because it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny because it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: cindymay04</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9076</link>
		<dc:creator>cindymay04</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is when you&#039;ve got a customer for a private web app. the refuses to use anything other than IE, but doesn&#039;t like the way it works and subsequently asks to to &#039;fix the way IE works&#039;. It makes me laugh, and cry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is when you&#8217;ve got a customer for a private web app. the refuses to use anything other than IE, but doesn&#8217;t like the way it works and subsequently asks to to &#8216;fix the way IE works&#8217;. It makes me laugh, and cry.</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus San</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9074</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus San</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ll find savvy is right - you can get it right in one debug. The other day I wrote a website and ran the initial debugs in Firefox. It worked first time in IE 6. That&#039;s IE 6! Not 7! 
The trick is to know what methods work in both Firefox and IE at the same time. You&#039;ll find you can work in W3C standards and yet neither Firefox or IE work. Opera hower, just doesn&#039;t work. At all.

Ofcourse, getting it to work in any browser is all a matter of how much you have worked with that browser. You&#039;ll find IE works alot better with .NET websites, it&#039;s just a matter of fact, but you&#039;ll find that a coder who started coding for IE first would spend less time coding for IE, but would find Firefox doesn&#039;t work. 
However, I first started learning HTML in Firefox, so I can see the funny side of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ll find savvy is right &#8211; you can get it right in one debug. The other day I wrote a website and ran the initial debugs in Firefox. It worked first time in IE 6. That&#8217;s IE 6! Not 7!<br />
The trick is to know what methods work in both Firefox and IE at the same time. You&#8217;ll find you can work in W3C standards and yet neither Firefox or IE work. Opera hower, just doesn&#8217;t work. At all.</p>
<p>Ofcourse, getting it to work in any browser is all a matter of how much you have worked with that browser. You&#8217;ll find IE works alot better with .NET websites, it&#8217;s just a matter of fact, but you&#8217;ll find that a coder who started coding for IE first would spend less time coding for IE, but would find Firefox doesn&#8217;t work.<br />
However, I first started learning HTML in Firefox, so I can see the funny side of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Bossie</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9073</link>
		<dc:creator>Bossie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all i have to say is: YOU SUCK, you&#039;re probably using some stupid drag-and-drop 3rd world webdevelpment tool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all i have to say is: YOU SUCK, you&#8217;re probably using some stupid drag-and-drop 3rd world webdevelpment tool</p>
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		<title>By: Tah~</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9070</link>
		<dc:creator>Tah~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Likewise. That&#039;s why I use FF now. Plus, the logo is cooler. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Likewise. That&#8217;s why I use FF now. Plus, the logo is cooler. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: caghs</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9060</link>
		<dc:creator>caghs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, you seem to live in an idealist world.  In a magical world where all browsers used the same standards, then maybe we could &#039;get it right the first time&#039;.

But in the real world, where a real web developer tries to get it to work AND look good on as many browsers as possible, there is a lot of debugging required as you try to compensate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, you seem to live in an idealist world.  In a magical world where all browsers used the same standards, then maybe we could &#8216;get it right the first time&#8217;.</p>
<p>But in the real world, where a real web developer tries to get it to work AND look good on as many browsers as possible, there is a lot of debugging required as you try to compensate.</p>
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		<title>By: caghs</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9059</link>
		<dc:creator>caghs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point exactly.  I prefer VBScript myself, but do use JavaScript when necessary (I avoid both if I can at all help it, who needs the headaches?) .. and gasp, horror, I do it all in NOTEPAD from scratch!!!

Yes, I do laugh at those who whip something up in Dreamweaver, etc, and call themselves web designers.  That&#039;s like putting an air freshener in your car and calling yourself a mechanic :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point exactly.  I prefer VBScript myself, but do use JavaScript when necessary (I avoid both if I can at all help it, who needs the headaches?) .. and gasp, horror, I do it all in NOTEPAD from scratch!!!</p>
<p>Yes, I do laugh at those who whip something up in Dreamweaver, etc, and call themselves web designers.  That&#8217;s like putting an air freshener in your car and calling yourself a mechanic <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: savvy</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9058</link>
		<dc:creator>savvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coding fail!

If you know a bit of coding, you would know how to work around it while coding your stuff so it is right the first time instead of debugging so much.

I still see too many sites saying &#039;this site works only in FF&#039; and such.. seriously, if you can&#039;t code, don&#039;t do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coding fail!</p>
<p>If you know a bit of coding, you would know how to work around it while coding your stuff so it is right the first time instead of debugging so much.</p>
<p>I still see too many sites saying &#8216;this site works only in FF&#8217; and such.. seriously, if you can&#8217;t code, don&#8217;t do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike the Pcrobot</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9053</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike the Pcrobot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True that! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True that! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hergieburbur</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9049</link>
		<dc:creator>hergieburbur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WYSIWYG editing in Front Page is NOT web developing. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WYSIWYG editing in Front Page is NOT web developing. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mordof</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9044</link>
		<dc:creator>mordof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s more to web design than just simple html.  get into php/javascript/perl/ruby on rails/afraid to say... .net/java.. and others - and there are those of us that aren&#039;t just web designers, but do actual programming as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s more to web design than just simple html.  get into php/javascript/perl/ruby on rails/afraid to say&#8230; .net/java.. and others &#8211; and there are those of us that aren&#8217;t just web designers, but do actual programming as well.</p>
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		<title>By: caghs</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9029</link>
		<dc:creator>caghs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol @ people who think we&#039;re not :)

Just because we don&#039;t use a compiler doesn&#039;t mean we&#039;re not coders.  At least those of us who use raw code, anyway.
Dreamweaver does not a coder make (this goes for flash, frontpage, and all those other WSIWYG&#039;s too ...)

IE sucks!!!  Didn&#039;t even add PNG&#039;s until version 7, and being Miscrosoft, the higher the version, the crappier (Vista being a prime example of MS&#039;s idea of &#039;upgrading&#039;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol @ people who think we&#8217;re not <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just because we don&#8217;t use a compiler doesn&#8217;t mean we&#8217;re not coders.  At least those of us who use raw code, anyway.<br />
Dreamweaver does not a coder make (this goes for flash, frontpage, and all those other WSIWYG&#8217;s too &#8230;)</p>
<p>IE sucks!!!  Didn&#8217;t even add PNG&#8217;s until version 7, and being Miscrosoft, the higher the version, the crappier (Vista being a prime example of MS&#8217;s idea of &#8216;upgrading&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: Gasweasel</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9027</link>
		<dc:creator>Gasweasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can IE even view webpages?  When did they add that functionality?  Whenever I load it on someone&#039;s system, all I get is pages of porn popups and notifications that I&#039;m infected and need to install AntiVirus 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can IE even view webpages?  When did they add that functionality?  Whenever I load it on someone&#8217;s system, all I get is pages of porn popups and notifications that I&#8217;m infected and need to install AntiVirus 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: eli</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9026</link>
		<dc:creator>eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol @ web designers who think they&#039;re coders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol @ web designers who think they&#8217;re coders.</p>
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		<title>By: right..</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9023</link>
		<dc:creator>right..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and why is that? for something that works better and gives less hassles. if you design around IE, you&#039;ll have to spend time debugging for other browsers too. every page i&#039;ve designed around firefox also works in safari, as well as opera. never has IE worked properly out of the box unless it&#039;s a simple site.

if you&#039;re ignorant and want to design purely for one browser only.. and also choosing IE, well if the user is anything like me, you&#039;ll have alot of people refusing to view your site. I don&#039;t load up IE just to view someones website when they choose not to make it work for anyone who prefers a better browser than IE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and why is that? for something that works better and gives less hassles. if you design around IE, you&#8217;ll have to spend time debugging for other browsers too. every page i&#8217;ve designed around firefox also works in safari, as well as opera. never has IE worked properly out of the box unless it&#8217;s a simple site.</p>
<p>if you&#8217;re ignorant and want to design purely for one browser only.. and also choosing IE, well if the user is anything like me, you&#8217;ll have alot of people refusing to view your site. I don&#8217;t load up IE just to view someones website when they choose not to make it work for anyone who prefers a better browser than IE.</p>
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		<title>By: ethana2</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9022</link>
		<dc:creator>ethana2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny and sad aren&#039;t mutually exclusive..</description>
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		<title>By: ethana2</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9021</link>
		<dc:creator>ethana2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sp/Opera/Internet Explorer

fixed it for you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sp/Opera/Internet Explorer</p>
<p>fixed it for you</p>
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		<title>By: ethana2</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9020</link>
		<dc:creator>ethana2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very yes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very yes</p>
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		<title>By: ethana2</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9019</link>
		<dc:creator>ethana2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just design around the lowest common denominator of the latest Firefox and Safari.

Direct IE users to a .png of the properly rendered web page with a link above it that says &#039;site not behaving as expected?  Get a real browser.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just design around the lowest common denominator of the latest Firefox and Safari.</p>
<p>Direct IE users to a .png of the properly rendered web page with a link above it that says &#8217;site not behaving as expected?  Get a real browser.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: bobbobbob</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9015</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbobbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol @ web coders who design around Firefox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol @ web coders who design around Firefox</p>
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		<title>By: random comment</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9014</link>
		<dc:creator>random comment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No need to stone you, you are obviously stoned already :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to stone you, you are obviously stoned already <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: yeti_6</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9013</link>
		<dc:creator>yeti_6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I work as a web developer for about 6 years and all I have to say is: FIREFOX SUCKS!!! Meh... Now stone me (:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I work as a web developer for about 6 years and all I have to say is: FIREFOX SUCKS!!! Meh&#8230; Now stone me (:</p>
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		<title>By: double meh.</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9012</link>
		<dc:creator>double meh.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opera? I don&#039;t even consider that a browser any more than an amusing application that emulates web browsing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opera? I don&#8217;t even consider that a browser any more than an amusing application that emulates web browsing.</p>
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		<title>By: Pringle</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9011</link>
		<dc:creator>Pringle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame. :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame. :/</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-9008</link>
		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES! FINALLY someone has put this in chart form. I can show it to my clients that want full compatibility with IE5.5 (yes, they still exist).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES! FINALLY someone has put this in chart form. I can show it to my clients that want full compatibility with IE5.5 (yes, they still exist).</p>
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		<title>By: MEH.</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-8989</link>
		<dc:creator>MEH.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preaching to the choir ATM - of course, some of that IE time is really spent publicly bitching that so many people still use IE rather than Firefox or Opera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preaching to the choir ATM &#8211; of course, some of that IE time is really spent publicly bitching that so many people still use IE rather than Firefox or Opera.</p>
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		<title>By: E. Tufte</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-8988</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Tufte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only problem with this graph is it is not funny...
It&#039;s just the way it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only problem with this graph is it is not funny&#8230;<br />
It&#8217;s just the way it is.</p>
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		<title>By: The Jolt Master</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-8980</link>
		<dc:creator>The Jolt Master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear hear, Brother William W!!  Tell it like it is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear, Brother William W!!  Tell it like it is!</p>
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		<title>By: William Lumburgh</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-8978</link>
		<dc:creator>William Lumburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot about the time spent putting your cover sheet on the TPS reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot about the time spent putting your cover sheet on the TPS reports.</p>
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		<title>By: kazoink</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-8977</link>
		<dc:creator>kazoink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so incredibly true... except maybe you were a little generous on the time spent coding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so incredibly true&#8230; except maybe you were a little generous on the time spent coding.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://graphjam.com/2008/08/22/song-chart-memes-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-8976</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true.</description>
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